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I am so freaked out at the moment, and yet so relaxed as it all makes sense ...

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kitsandbits · 19/08/2007 23:13

(Bit of background first)

Im absolutlt terrified of flying. I have flown about a dozen times, last time being 7 years ago. Up until then i was OK, but felt VERY uncomfatable on planes, but on my last flight I was 15 and felt REALLY freaked. It was my last family holiday and have nevr flown since.

I have repeated dreams about plane crashes, they have slowed down lately but about 6 months ago i would have about 3 a week !

Sometimes Im in the plane, sometimes im watching it and it just explodes. I always imagine or see myself sat looking down the isles, its horrible.

Anyway tonight I watched this programme about 'past lives' and my mum came round after. I was telling her about the little lad on it who recalled his past life and they looked it up and (most - but not all) of it was true.

She said you did something like that when you wre little, Then went quiet.

I tried to get the story from her for about 10 minutes and she said When i was little i told her I had died in a car crash.

I just laughed,

but I could tell she wasn't giving me the full story, so cue another 15 minutes of badgering and she finally tells me ...

When i was just gone 2.5 i SAID TO HER

'MUM, DO YOU REMEMBER WHEN I WAS ON THE PLANE AND IT SET ON FIRE AND i DIED?'

apparantly i would tell my mum I was sat on the plane and there was fire everywhere and then I died,

and every time I saw one in the sky i would say, I died n that plane mummy.

Now you probably all think im BONKERS, but when she told me i cried, and im shaking now.

Its not just a fearI have, its something more (ive posted about it before under the name kittylette - its a paralysing fear)

And it all just seems to make sense now, the things I see in my dreams and the way I feel about planes.

But I also feel in a way its a warning - not to go on one, even though all evidence points to a past thing.

God Im just rambling here, and I know you will all say 'kids say weird stuff'

but what I said back then in relation to the dreams and pictures I still have now,

its just really freaked me out TBH.

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slim22 · 22/08/2007 02:56

Would definitely also recommend regressional therapy.
Make sure you get lots of attention annd understanding from family and friends bbefore and after you do it as my be unsettling.
Are religious in any way?
If you are, pray to relax. ( I'm not,but friends who are say it rreally helps, like repeating a mantra when you meditate. just keeps you calm).

slim22 · 22/08/2007 03:00

If you don't want to go down that route, then you can simply do behavioural therapy/PNL to get over the fear.

melsy · 22/08/2007 12:02

I have been reading some of yuor posts and trying to find a programme I watched a while back, it explains all about what you are experiencing. Im not sure if you would be able to get hold of any of them , but it may be one lead fot you. The programme is hosted by a researcher named Sarah Kapoor

I havent experinced anything as extreme as you , but I go to certain parts of the world and feel such connection It takes me breath away. Im fascinated by past life possibilities , but remain questioning in the reality of it. I like to investigate and doing so may help releive some of what you are experiencing. I definately feel it may help to speak to someone experinced in this field.

cestlavie · 22/08/2007 15:31

I hate to sound like the voice of reason here, but before we start contemplating the possibilities of past lives/ reincarnation/ precognition etc. there may be more likely possibilities.

At the age of 2.5, children are very likely to personalise any perceived or even imagined events, i.e. if that happened to this person/ in this story/ on TV then surely it could happen to me. This has been most obvious recently in the McCann case. This is also well after the age range (14-20 months) within which children start to develop and form long term memories and shortly after the age (circa 2 years) at which childhood anxieties can develop. In fact, severe fears are present in about 10-15% of children (including a fear of flying, death in vehicle accidents etc.)

In terms of your specific fear, estimates of the number of people who suffer from it range from 10-40% of the population. This obviously ranges from people who suffer to a debilitating extent (like a friend's wife who caught a cruise ship to New York to see her DH rather than fly) to milder forms from anxiety. Interestingly, it often manifests itself in the late teens/ early 20s onwards when people become able to personalise death again in the way they do as a child (i.e. it can happen to me).

Maybe one explanation is that when younger, you saw or heard something about a plane crash which in its nature (maybe graphic video footage on television) was the cause of your original fears/comments as a child. It may simply have been a news item or a radio broadcast, maybe it even mentioned that children had died in the crash. These can form lasting memories at this age, and incidentally, one of a number of reasons why you should be wary of past life hypotheses. Your current fears may well be linked to this, or even simply coincidental.

fransmom · 24/08/2007 21:44
Hmm
serin · 31/08/2007 22:56

A couple of months ago we stayed in a tall hotel and DS1 age 6 became terrified in the car park and refused to go in. This was very uncharacteristic of him, the kid is afraid of nothing! He was shaking, crying and threw himself on the floor, people were staring at us he was so loud. Eventually we got him back into the car and he managed to tell us that he couldn't go in because he'd died in a fire in a building like that when an airplane crashed into it.
I don't for one minute think he was in New York at the time of the twin towers disaster because I distinctly remember feeding him his tea as I watched the footage on TV and he was just a little tiny at the time! However had his younger brother said the same thing I can see how a different conclusion could have been drawn.

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