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Healing crystals

33 replies

nonamemummy · 14/07/2019 21:34

Was curious where everyone gets their healing crystals from. Don’t want to end up buying anything fake!

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Elphame · 20/07/2019 22:54

Well I expect you've owned a watch regulated by a quartz crystal?

Quartz vibrates at precise frequencies. The crystals are used to make oscillators for watches, clocks, radios, televisions, electronic games, computers, mobile phones, electronic meters and GPS equipment. (source geology.com).

They can also be affected by "sonic shock" which affects them physically.

Many gemstones are varieties of quartz

Science has yet to prove that these vibrations can affect the human body. Maybe they can. Maybe they can't but to have a closed mind to the possibility is not the way that scientific advances are made.

donquixotedelamancha · 21/07/2019 00:22

Maybe they can't but to have a closed mind to the possibility is not the way that scientific advances are made.

Nor is making stuff up. A watch works. It would be trivially easy to prove that healing crystals work, if they did so. They don't.

Elphame · 21/07/2019 09:18

Really? You have the biochemistry degree do you?

As far as I know no studies have been done - yet. If you know of any then please point me to them.

donquixotedelamancha · 21/07/2019 09:32

Really? You have the biochemistry degree do you?

Yes. Feel free to search my posting history for the word biochemistry.

As far as I know no studies have been done - yet. If you know of any then please point me to them.

I doubt that's true but regardless, Science doesn't work by believing unlikely claims until they are proved false.

However I am happy to test their effectiveness. If you can bring your crystals to the north west it will be easy to do some initial testing and show preliminary results. Assuming that is favourable we will probably need a year or so to get enough data to publish. We will both get Nobel prizes- that's about £600k each.

speakout · 21/07/2019 11:34

We must be careful not to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

While the rigorous nature of scientific method continue to bring great advances that we all rely on we are in danger if we are arrogant enough to start believing that the scientific model is the ultimate truth.
That is an arrogant stance.
I have met and worked with several great scientific researchers and while scientific method underpins their work the truly great ones lack arrogance and have open minds.
Some of the most amazing discoveries in science happen when researchers break out of their comfortable box and question possibilities.
Predictably some of Einstein's work has been thrown on it's head by recent advances in quantum mechanics, of course he was a great mind, but the scientific model will never be perfect by its vey nature. It is a facimile of reality- not reality itself.

I make no scientific claims for the powers of crystals ( although crystallography as a scientific subject is beyond sexy!), and that is not really my point.

I have two GPs and a dentist who swear by complementary techniques to aid and support their allopathic work.
Our local GP service offer accupuncture, for pain relif and for physio treatment. Paid for by the NHS.
There is no rationale for these treatments. They fly in the face of our scientific models.
I get that.
Eastern medicine and other types of healing utilise methods that we don't understand.

In order to be a good scientist we need humility.

Lifecraft · 21/07/2019 19:44

Well I expect you've owned a watch regulated by a quartz crystal?
Quartz vibrates at precise frequencies.

Only when an electric current is passed thru it. Take the battery out of a quartz watch, and the quartz in the watch is about much use as healing crystals.

Lifecraft · 21/07/2019 19:45

There are, sadly, too many scumbags who are willing to prey on the vulnerability of others. That's why it's so important to challenge the magical thinking they use to cover their crimes.

Head of nail, meet hammer.

ErrolTheDragon · 21/07/2019 20:10

I make no scientific claims for the powers of crystals ( although crystallography as a scientific subject is beyond sexy!)

I suppose ethically sourced crystals are one of the more aesthetically pleasing of placebos, but the use of molecular structures determined using crystallography in understanding and developing real treatments is their real power!Grin

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