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Help with prayer/leaving things with God..

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Becca19962014 · 03/02/2019 10:48

I was wondering if anyone had any advice on how to do this? I pray but keep worrying and keeping stuff in my head. It's really badly effecting me to the extent I ended up in hospital with a suspected heart attack. I've a huge amount of stressful things going on I can do nothing about (I've tried) and it's really getting me down.

I don't even know if that makes sense! I hope it does!!

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speakout · 03/02/2019 12:52

OPm perhaps a visit to your GP to discuss your anxiety would be more helpful?

Becca19962014 · 03/02/2019 13:01

They can't help. I've already tried them. I can't have any medication due to my conditions and therapy request was refused. I was advised to buy a book on CBT instead (hasn't helped).

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speakout · 03/02/2019 13:13

Becca19962014

Why was therapy refused?
Talking therapies and CBT can be helpful.

Becca19962014 · 03/02/2019 13:13

Just to clarify they were nice enough about my problems and did the referral, it was MH who rejected the referral due to not being ill.

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Becca19962014 · 03/02/2019 13:15

I'm not ill I don't meet their criteria for Face to face support just the book.

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RangeRider · 03/02/2019 13:24

Could you try writing everything down? Make a big long list of everything you can possibly think of that could be worrying you. And then you can share the list with God (if you want, and I'd recommend it) for Him to help you. Plus, if it's down in black & white it's somehow less stressful and you can more clearly see where you can start doing something about the issues.

Vitalogy · 03/02/2019 15:18

OP, I recommended the book The Power of Now a while back, if you aren't able to get a copy I could send you one. The audio book is on YouTube, I know you said before your internet isn't great though. I prefer the audio book myself, I find Eckhart Tolle's voice relaxing.

Becca19962014 · 03/02/2019 15:34

I've been trying to get a copy. My internet isn't good enough for the YouTube one. I meant to let you know that, sorry.

I'll try the list when I feel able to.

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Vitalogy · 03/02/2019 15:53

That's ok Becca Just let me know if you want me to send the copy I have. I always listen to the audio, so you're very welcome to it. I don't want anything for it. I know the security issue with giving out addresses though. I've been on here for a good few years just for a bit of reassurance anyway. Best wishes.

Becca19962014 · 03/02/2019 17:39

I don't give my address out to anyone online - nothing personal, I do appreciate your kind offer though.

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babba2014 · 07/02/2019 22:51

“O the Living, O the Eternal, I seek help in Your grace).”

babba2014 · 07/02/2019 22:52

“O Allah, I hope for Your mercy, so give me not over to my self even for as little as wink of an eye, and set right all my affairs, there is no god but You).”

Allah is the word for God in Arabic even for. Christians and Jews.

babba2014 · 07/02/2019 22:54

O Allah, there is no ease except what You make easy, and you alone can turn a difficulty into ease.”

OutwiththeOutCrowd · 12/02/2019 12:41

Becca I’m not religious at all but this notion of not being able to let go of stuff in your head, even when it is having a detrimental effect on you, resonates with me. I’m the queen of mulling things over ad infinitum and ad nauseum!

As you know, in the bible, Jesus says:

Look at the birds of the air, for they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they? Which of you by worrying can add one cubit to his stature?

It definitely sounds like he is advising people to go with the flow and trust a bit more.

This idea is picked up on by Eckhart Tolle in his book The Power of Now mentioned earlier by Vitalogy.

Still recognising the freedom that living in the moment brings is not the same as actually being able to do it. And chastising yourself inwardly for raking over the past or agonising over the future does little to subdue the compulsion.

So instead of this, try to get the thoughts/prayers ‘out there’, as opposed to circling around your brain like a trapped goldfish in a murky bowl. Say what you want to say out loud even if it’s in a mutter. Try to go somewhere outside the home and ‘deposit’ the prayers/thoughts by saying them when you get to your destination - which could be church or some other sacred space where you feel close to God.

If you like to write, writing your thoughts down can help to get them ‘out there ‘ too, and in a clarified form, as RangeRider suggests. I know that some people find journalling over a protracted period useful as well. It’s good for the morale to see that you’re not really stuck, that thoughts evolve and life circumstances change.

A more general conception of what constitutes talking to God might help too. Seeking out loving, empathetic people to open up to makes sense. As you are a Christian, you might think of this as talking to God through another person. The feedback you get can do much to quell the small voice inside which needs to feel it’s been heard and understood before it’s prepared to contemplate moving on.

All of these things can help prevent repetitive thoughts from driving you crazy.

By the way, do you like the Beatles song, ‘Let it Be’? I think the lyrics are a good fit for you and you could listen to the song when you start to feel overwhelmed by your own thoughts. (It’s not actually a religious song but certainly could easily be interpreted as such if you found it helpful to do so.)

I particularly like the version by Matt Hylom:

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