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A thought for today...

58 replies

ChaCha · 01/05/2007 22:50

"Who am I and what is the reason of my creation?"

Anyone?

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harrisey · 07/05/2007 04:36

I dont believe God 'needs' our worship, but I do know that He delights in it. Our worship is a 'sacrifice of praise' to Him, and I am sure he loves it when we are able to worship Him. Just as I dont 'need' my children to love me in order to survive day to day, but when my 7yo, or my 5yo, or my 3yo puts their arms around me and says 'I love you Mummy!' and it makes me happy, so how much more must God delight in me offering Him my love, my praise, my worship.
God created me. He made me in His image (amazing!) and so to me the only proper response is to worship Him.

A God who 'needs' our worship would not truly be God, not omnipotent, but a God who delights in the worship I choose to give Him is something very special to me.

MaryBS · 07/05/2007 16:01

Harrisey, that is lovely!

MaryBS · 07/05/2007 18:25

Sooz, forgot to say, that everyone's view of God is different, but as far as I'm concerned, what you've said is fine. It was something I'd thought about though, like you have, that we should be doing God's work on earth, which includes being his hands, his feet, his voice etc.

ZipadiSuzy · 07/05/2007 21:00

Thanks for your advice there, as long as I'm on the right track, I really get engrossed in these conflabs! find them really interesting, everyday I learn something new, or understand something a little better from reading these threads.

MaryBS · 08/05/2007 15:22

Sooz - I think you're doing just fine

ZipadiSuzy · 08/05/2007 22:43

Why thank you MaryBS - So whats the thought of the day today?

ZipadiSuzy · 09/05/2007 20:36

Cha Cha - have you got your answer yet to who you are and the reason for your creation? I'd be interested how you now feel!

ChaCha · 09/05/2007 21:03

Keep meaning to post here and get sidetracked as usual

Yes, i believe I know who i am and the reason of my creation is to worship God. It took me a long time to get there, years and years. I'd be interested to know how everyone else came to their beliefs. Was it through upbringing for example or through one of lifes many experiences...

Answers on a postcard pls

  • Must go and put DS1 to bed. Will hopefully be back on later.
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ZipadiSuzy · 09/05/2007 22:37

Cha Cha - how long did it take to become a christian for you, I'm 46 this year and am getting fed up trying, perhaps God is trying to teach me patience first! I havent a clue where to go from here! don't know what I'm doing wrong!

ZipadiSuzy · 09/05/2007 22:41

I always thought I was a christian, have a church background and was a sunday school teacher, used to take my children regularly, but only being on mn have I realised and questioned the lack in strength of my faith! and don't seem to get anything from it!

ChaCha · 09/05/2007 23:08

Hi ZS, I'm actually a Muslim Do you know much about Sufism?

Was brought up with no particular faith, went to Sunday school, celebrated Christmas, went to mass etc.. Went without faith for years and then found inner peace and spirituality with Islam years later.

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MaryBS · 10/05/2007 08:12

I was brought up a Christian in a very devout household, but fell apart as an adult after marital difficulties. Came back to God, first for my children's sake, then rediscovered my own faith.

BrownSuga · 10/05/2007 08:35

The meaning of life

Gen 1:28 Further, God blessed them and God said to them: ?Be fruitful and become many and fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving upon the earth.?

ZipadiSuzy · 10/05/2007 12:21

I respect all religions, we are all doing the same thing at the end of the day, I have been looking into alternatives and hope to find what I'm looking for 'SOON' its all very interesting!

ShinyHappyPeopleHoldingHands · 10/05/2007 12:25

"Who am I and what is the reason of my creation?"

I, along with everyone else, am a individualised soul, born onto earth to relate to others and experience all that I planned to experience before birth. I may not achieve and experience all of that because I have free will. My life path is only one option but it is always the one that will teach me the most and ultimately bring me the most happiness.

I, along with everyone else, am a part of one collective, which many call "God".

ZipadiSuzy · 10/05/2007 12:25

BS - love what you said, but its not reality for me atm, seems too 'looking through rose tinted glasses' I know its possible but don't hang out much hope for me personally, I attend church used to be a sunday school teacher, take children to christian activites, and toddler praise, surround ourselves with plenty of books, but don't know how I've lost it! will carry on searching!

MaryBS · 10/05/2007 18:29

Maybe its a question of "familiarity breeds contempt", Sooz. I certainly took my faith for granted. Its why I find the parable of the prodigal son so relevant (and many other people do too I think!).

This is part of an pre-selection essay (prior to being selected for Reader training) I wrote on the prodigal son:

?this brother of yours was dead and has come to life, he was lost and has been found?

This, above all, has significance for me. How that can comfort all of us! When we?ve done wrong, gone our own way, ignored what is right. Then, when we?ve hit rock bottom, perhaps been too scared to ask for forgiveness due to fear of rejection. To stand or kneel before God and say ?I am not worthy? and to feel His love enveloping you? picking you out of the dust. All the fine things ? the robe, the ring, the fatted calf. They never even mattered to the prodigal. What was all important was that he had his father?s forgiveness, his father?s love. The welcome he received was far beyond anything he could have hoped for. He probably appreciated his father?s love more now too ? because he had ?lost? it, had been away from it, and now was encompassed by it ? because you don?t appreciate what you?ve got till its gone. We can take comfort from the prodigal?s plight and forgiveness by his father.

ZipadiSuzy · 10/05/2007 20:47

MaryBS - thank you, didn't think I'd taken my christianity for granted, I thought I worked hard at it and tried to better myself within my faith, but still I related to your essay so perhaps I have got lost and accepted my lot without a thought! or wasn't a christian in the first place! but how can a person go through all the motions of attending church, being a sunday school teacher, and getting confirmed, having children christened, without getting the plot!

Will have to delve further!!!!

MaryBS · 10/05/2007 21:52

No, I didn't mean you had, just that I had!

ZipadiSuzy · 11/05/2007 12:59

MaryBS - I knew you meant that I was meaning perhaps I have taken things for granted without knowing, and that is why I seem lost!

MaryBS · 11/05/2007 15:18

Thing, I am SO SO happy in what I'm doing, and I don't think I would be feeling like this if I hadn't had that "break from God" where I felt lost/bereft. I just thank God every day for his blessings.

ZipadiSuzy · 11/05/2007 15:33
Envy
MaryBS · 11/05/2007 16:18

But I had a long long time where I suffered from depression, was convinced I was destined for hell, and cried every time I went in a church. Many many times I wished I was dead.

Makes the contrast all the greater...

ZipadiSuzy · 11/05/2007 23:15

What was your first lightbulb moment, how did it happen or was it gradual realisation? were you reading something, or listening to something, or singing something? I'd love to know how when what where????? (just nosey) love to here peoples born again moments!

Sorry Mary, if its private! ignore me!

ZipadiSuzy · 11/05/2007 23:17

Oh and enjoy your concert with Panda! what you seeing?

Yes rather nosey tonite! just a peoples person!

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