I think people should be careful doing Reiki

[lottieandmia22]

This post assumes a belief in spirituality so I'm not interested in debating that specifically. If you want to please start your own thread.

From what I can see, reiki is channeling occult energy through people's bodies and is therefore potentially risky. It seems to me that new age practitioners will repeatedly say they don't believe in malevolent entities but I think this is naive.

One of my friends told me that his dad was never the same after he became involved with reiki.

And also nearly everyone I've met who has done it was told by the reiki practitioner that they are 'special' have a 'gift' or could easily become a reiki master.

'Reiki does work but fuck knows how. My SIL does it and I am very sceptical but have to confess it works.'

What is your experience of it working Butplug? I think it would be interesting to hear what makes people seek it out.

The person I know who had it didn't have a specific ailment though.

Maybe some posters here should try meditation and reiki and chill out.

Btw negative reactions are often stuff you need to work through. Old suppressed emotions try not to fear or run away x

Everyone's truths are different probably due to life experiences, temperament, education, their character, the society they grow up in, the culture etc etc

No. Everyones experiences are different. Facts are not. Facts do not change based on any of those things. Water does not have a memory no matter how badly educated or how gullible your character. You may believe it does because of those things, but it does not, and never will.
Why can't people understand this?

If a placebo works, then it works. It isn't a waste of money. The HV has experience of some families being helped by various 'placebos' who weren't helped by the initial more mainstream treatments. Why wouldn't she recommend them? Surely it would be more unethical to fail to share ideas which might help

If she says this is a placebo and may help you, fine. If she says this is X treatment and will treat Y ailment, that's not fine. Lying to patients about giving them treatment is not ok.

Chamomile is fantastic for babies and does work!

Yes. Who said it didn't?

as long as you mean actual chamomile, and not homeopathic chamomile, which doesn't contain any.

people seem a bit confused about the difference between herbal and homeopathic.
ofc camomile works, its a flower that has been used for centuries for its calming properties

Here's a primer: herbal= contains actual ingredients, may or may not have some effect. Excellent evidence for some herbal remedies, very little to none for others. Look at each individually.
homepathic: doesn't contain any active ingredient (or in amounts so infentisimal to be the same thing), absolutely cannot have any effect on anything other than placebo.

Again, can you STOP derailing the thread. Weeping Angel. FFS this is not about homeopathy.

"Btw negative reactions are often stuff you need to work through. Old suppressed emotions try not to fear or run away"
This is true of any form of meditation. Or even just sitting down and letting your mind relax. Nothing to do with energy flows.

I'm not derailing anything, I'm responding to other peoples mention of it. Threads meander and change, you do not own it just because you started it. Please refrain from telling me what to post, its very rude.

Reiki itself (I think) is supposed to work on the chakras as shown in this diagram. I always found it quite strange how courses like Indian Head massage and learning about chakras are kind of tacked onto courses which don't have anything to do with that. And I did feel incredibly ill. Doing an ordinary massage I never felt this way.

Weeping angel - and you are very rude derailing my thread. There is an etiquette on mumsnet not to derail people's threads but to start your own if it's about a different topic. And if you're determined to look like a belligerent arse then by all means carry on 🙄

The placebo effect has nothing whatsoever to do with the complementry "medicine" that is apparently harnessing it.

Eating a Smartie will provoke the placebo effect if it's prescribed by someone in a white coat.

When science says that something does not work "beyond the placebo effect" it is saying that it does not work at all. So, people really need to stop clutching at this to try and pretend that their medieval nonsensical beliefs have some sort of efficacy. They don't.

And, no one, btw, is saying that Reikki works as a placebo, merely that anything at all can be expected to work as a placebo, so this has to be factored in to the results.

Reikki does not work. Appealing to the supernatural as an explanation for something non-existent is not a rational thing to do.

As ever, the bad feeling on this thread comes entirely from those frothing at the mouth because someone has shone a spotlight on their publically shared beliefs. If facts and common sense pain you all so much then keep your beliefs to yourselves.

Yes TabbyMack well that entire post is an admission on your part at least that you do indeed have the intention to stop people from talking about things you don't want discussed.

'Keep your beliefs to yourselves'

No. Not in a topic entitled 'religion and philosophy' you stay out of that section of mumsnet if you want to talk about science 😂

I was hoping that the people who said reiki works would explain how it worked for them but they seem to have gone.

I'm hiding this thread now because it's pointless. 🤷🏻‍♀️

but its neither religion or philosophy, so really you are as much in the wrong place as they are.

You know they can't explain how it works for them even if they think it does. The only answer you ever get is I don't know how it works I just think it does work. Not very helpful.

Er ... what does Reikki have to do with Religion or Philosophy? Why are you here?

OP...you started this thread saying that you thought Reikki was "dangerous".

The only real response to that is, "No, it's not dangerous....it can't be because it has no effect whatsoever". But you've decided to have a strop at anyone pointing out the bleeding obvious.

Here's the bottom line....adults taking to public spheres to discuss beliefs that are manifestly wrong are going to be met with responses from people pointing that out. A rational discussion would be nice, but it's impossible when there's this childish "HOW DARE YOU NOT RESPECT MY TRUTH?" mentality.

You and Magpie are the only people who have been rude on this thread.

God and religion cannot be scientifically proved either and yet from the beginning of time, billions of people have claimed it has helped them in many ways. If something helps you psychologically, it helps you physically, I'll give you a real example:

When I was a teenager, I didn't have a period for a year, this was way before the internet so I couldn't get advice. I was TERRIFIED, in my ignorance I thought I'd had a miscarriage, that it was blocking my tubes somehow, it was all backing up inside me. I thought many silly things, I was a scared teenage girl.
The doctor eventually told me I had secondary ammenorhea and that it was probably caused by stress, exams, my job or my boyfriend and that I wasn't going to die and my insides were fine. Just to relax.
I walked out of the surgery and had had a period within a few days of hearing that news.

No medicinal remedies were offered, and none taken.
My Secondary ammenorhea is a prime example of the power of the brain controlling the body and has been a huge lesson to me in not dismissing the importance of such.

If this can be useful to some people with some ailments then I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand. I can't, I'm living proof, in a way.

Do you just want this thread to be about the possible dangers of Reiki? You have been reassured by Reiki practitioners, Reiki users and non believers that your fears are groundless-do you think there is more to say?

Some posters have said their (Dads, i think) "havent been the same" since having Reiki. I'd like to hear in what ways?

*theres no judgement here, I'm genuinely curious.