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Samhain greetings that aren't religious

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Slimthistime · 23/10/2017 20:31

hello
I'm an atheist and only just learning some quite basic stuff about this - they only taught us about "major world religions" etc in school

is there greeting that might be used by atheist to offer good wishes on the day?
Thanks.

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BikeRunSki · 23/10/2017 20:37

I am not aware of any particular
Wicca/Pagan greetings for Samhain, but it is worth you knowing that “Samhain” is pronounced “SOW-in”.

BikeRunSki · 23/10/2017 20:38

SAW-in is probably a better way of saying it actually.

Slimthistime · 23/10/2017 20:39

Thank you Bike

It's more for social media really. I think most people will think I'm madder than they already do if I start greeting them in person.

though I might....!

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Slimthistime · 23/10/2017 20:43

I probably should have said "Samhain greetings that don't refer to god".

Or blessings. But now I've realised I associate the word blessing with god when perhaps I shouldn't.

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BroomstickOfLove · 23/10/2017 21:25

Happy New Year would do, if it was in a religious but without mention of deities context.

Balonder · 23/10/2017 21:27

I would pronounce Samhain SOWin. Sow as in female pig

Slimthistime · 23/10/2017 21:32

Broomstick, I like that but I dint think people will understand it?

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TooManyPaws · 25/10/2017 22:31

I tend to say "Samhain blessings to you" or similar. I've only ever heard it as sow-en too. I don't consider it as new year - that's not universal amongst initiated Wiccans. As a Scot, Hogmanay is new year but a lot of people feel that spring is a time for the new year starting.

Slimthistime · 26/10/2017 10:07

thanks

I suppose I associate "blessings" with a religion or a god so I don't like the word, but tbh I don't know the history of the word so I might be totally wrong.

it is quite depressing when you study anything and find so much of it is linked to religion.

Hope this is okay to ask here, as it's active, but I've seen a couple of Pagan festival type things advertised for Samhain in London, with no information about what happens.

What does happen at these things, will I be the odd one out if there are chants and the audience are supposed to respond and I don't know how?

also, is it mostly women? Ideally I'd prefer a women only one.

theatlantisbookshop.com/events/event/pagan-federation-london-samhain-open-ritual/

I bought a book that was meant to be an introduction to wicca and it's really not - plus it's full of specific sets of instructions for performing rituals - didn't explain anything about different types of witch. Should have saved money and just researched online.

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Pooley83 · 26/10/2017 21:07

Paganism is a religion that is logical, useful, resourceful, eco friendly, promotes equality and tolerant of people's individuality and religions - quite the opposite to Christianity and other religions. Basically Samhain is the recognition and celebration of the sun God's death and where the spirits of our ancestors and passed loved ones are able to enter the realms of earth and interact with the living souls of earth.

TooManyPaws · 29/10/2017 20:26

Op, the PF open festival looks good. I suspect there will be a lot of people for whom it will be new or newish. Every similar thing that I have been to has had explanations first about what will be happening and what people are going to do. Chants are normally simple and can be picked up after a couple of repetitions - they're usually a couple of lines repeated many times. Why not contact the PF and ask? People are usually very welcoming. I don't know about women only ones but, if it helps, a friend credits Paganism with teaching her that men can be strong, kind, gentle and believing in equality after a lifetime of seeing the worst type of man through work and in her personal life.

TooManyPaws · 29/10/2017 20:28

Oh, and there are Pagan atheists too Grin

You can believe in gods or not. Or that they are archetypes in the universal unconscious. Or whatever. It's up to you.

GinAndSonic · 29/10/2017 20:34

I wish people a good Samhain. Id call myself a pagan atheist. I'm working this year but will be setting candles and food out on the back step when I come home.

Slimthistime · 29/10/2017 22:27

Thanks all

I have been thinking about it and I'm not a really a person for groups anyway, it was more I was just curious because something about it has struck a chord with me

I'm definitely going to read up more about it
it's already making me feel better about winter and that usually makes me a right grump

I've bought some nice nature prints for the flat and I saw a fox at the Tube station today, which cheered me up. (I don't see them where I live, I know they are here but for some reason I hardly ever see them).

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speakout · 30/10/2017 07:02

GinAndSonic - I am an atheist and a witch. glad to meet you.

MeriReu · 30/10/2017 12:21

New Pagan here - still learning my place and very much a beginner.
It's so nice to meet others! Grin

Solly76 · 22/01/2018 10:32

I just say Samhain Blessings or Blessed Samhain

Nice to find fellow witches/pagans on here

Hookit · 31/10/2018 07:27

This was in a local news paper and also an interview between the two parties the Vicar and David Speight.

The vicar did not do very well.

Samhain greetings that aren't religious
Elphame · 31/10/2018 14:34

@Slimthistime

"I bought a book that was meant to be an introduction to wicca and it's really not - plus it's full of specific sets of instructions for performing rituals - didn't explain anything about different types of witch"

I wouldn't expect it to - wicca is a specific form of religious witchcraft so you would get wiccan derived rituals in a book and covering different types of witchcraft would be outside its remit. Having said that of course there are some who identify as wiccan but don't practice witchcraft and I'm sure there are some who identify as non religious wiccans and I've come across christian wiccans too. There really is no one size fits all. Which book was it?

I tend to use Happy Samhain as a greeting - fairly innocuous!

Open rituals are intended for all so you get a real mix of experience and there are almost always a good number of first timers especially at the big events. You'd be fine.

ClaryFray · 02/11/2018 19:18

Happy Halloween should do it. It's the more commercialised version and unlikely to offend.

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