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Do you have an INDIGO CHILD?

96 replies

maltesers · 12/12/2006 14:05

One of the top psychics in the country told me that my 6 yr old if special and an Indigo Child. Have bought a book bout them but still not read it. My son of 6 yrs has said some strange things like "I have just seen God back there with a circle of blue light all around him !" "I have seen him before in school assembly three times standing through the wall with a blue circle around him" He also mentioned a friend of his who makes him laugh, called Rufus who lived in our street, but says he is dead now. He says he died at 93 yrs in 1964 and he was killed. Whenever i ask him more he says "dont talk about it" but he did say the boy was called Rufus Riley.
Does my son see entities, spirits, or what ? ?

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YuletidePaps · 13/12/2006 11:37

Malteser - there are several threads on this board discussing Indigo Children - this is one of them HERE

Personally I would treat anything he sees as matter of fact and make him feel it is okay - imagination or otherwise. As you can see from posts on this thread people can be quite blunt and hurtful of something that don´t agree with, its quite a subjective topic.

UnquietDad · 13/12/2006 11:40

Sorry if it seems blunt and hurtful to dismiss utter rubbish for which there is absolutely no basis in fact. Would anyone care to start a thread on the existence of fairies?

YuletidePaps · 13/12/2006 11:47

or a thread on the existence of Santa... something we quite readily encourage our children to believe in whilst they are young.

Its already obvious afew posters think the Indigo Children concept is cobblers - anything else constructive to add?? Fact is a thin line and what we don´t understand or believe in does not mean that it is not food for thought. There is still alot to learn about how energy works.

ShinyHappyStarOfBethlehem · 13/12/2006 11:48

UnquietDad, you stay in your comfort zone where everything you don't understand you can happily to dismiss as "a load of bollocks". You shouldn't necessarily expect everyone else to do the same though.. this is the Philosophy/Religion/Spirituality forum after all. Perhaps you should go and start a chat thread where you are others can go and take the piss?

As far as what I believe, I have read a fair amount about Indigo children over the years and I am undecided. I am very close to a child who is very "special" in many ways and I started researching Indigos with her in mind. I prefer to keep an open mind about it.. and all things.

Maltesers there are places on the net (forums like this but aimed at spiritual matters) where you could disguss this in more details. Mystic Familiar is one of them. But keeping an open mind here as well is a good idea. It is often said that children start to lose their psychic abilities at around seven so these things may happen less to your DS, although not necessarily if he is an Indigo.

UnquietDad · 13/12/2006 11:58

All our children are "special" to us. Come ON.

For DD, I can answer "yes" to 9 of the Indigo questions below, "maybe" to one and a definite "no" to only two. What does it prove? Nothing.

Does "Wendy H Chapman" have any proper qualifications, or is she one of those people who claims to heal people by gazing into crystals and spends her rich clients' money on a yacht in the Bahamas?

It's nothing to do with being in a "comfort zone", and everything to do with wanting PROOF of outrageous assertions.

FLAMEinEckItsYuleAgain · 13/12/2006 12:02

I am undecided about indigo children, but why in any non-mainstream belief thread do so many people have to come on and say its a pile of cr*p??

I'm getting sick of it now - believe what you want, don't criticise others no matter how stupid you think it is.

Its the f*ckin witches all over again.

HoHoHorsewoman · 13/12/2006 12:04

Good job MIL doesn't belong to MN. I have heard about all I can take regarding 'Indigo Children' (apparently DD2 is one - and I just thought she was quite bright). My DDs have about 500 angel-type ornaments carved from finest resin and decorated with tasteful glitter gifted to them by crazy MIL who wants to nurture their spiritual side (she is obviously concerned that I think it's bollocks). She once came to stay armed with notes taken at her spiritualist meeting, complete with the names of both DDs guardian angels. DH couldn't understand why I got upset about it - life is hard enough for children without them having to try to comprehend these things at such a tender age. I think if your DS says he doesn't want to talk about it, then let him be; he will talk if he wants to - just be there to listen and help him make sense of things.

UnquietDad · 13/12/2006 12:06

Okay, I believe I can fly.
(In the words of R Kelly....)

Who's going to "respect my non-mainstream belief"?

FLAMEinEckItsYuleAgain · 13/12/2006 12:07

I'm guessing you ahve never had any spiritual healing then.

UnquietDad · 13/12/2006 12:08

I suppose not. Tell me what you mean by "spiritual healing" and I'll be able to answer properly.

FLAMEinEckItsYuleAgain · 13/12/2006 12:09

You think you can fly, go for it.

YuletidePaps · 13/12/2006 12:09

Lots of books written about indigo children - thats proof
Just like there is a book about Jesus - thats proof

How exactly would you like to examine this then?? As Bethlehem (quite marvellously) stated this is a forum about philosophical and spiritual matters - hard lines get wavy here. Proof tends to dwell more in the heart rather than in scientific journals.

You both used "special" in different context obviously.

FLAMEinEckItsYuleAgain · 13/12/2006 12:11

Healing involving crystals, hands, energy channelling etc.

FLAMEinEckItsYuleAgain · 13/12/2006 12:12

fwiw I don't think that the child should be made aware of any of it - I don't think you should dismiss what they say, but not try and get them to go into more detail etc/explain to them that they are indigo. Not until they are old enough to understand/question it.

YuletidePaps · 13/12/2006 12:12

here is a review of the Indigo Film that came out in the last year

Indigo Film

UnquietDad · 13/12/2006 12:24

Okay, I'll go and jump out of the nearest tree and... see if I miss the ground.

I don't understand what "healing" involving hands, crystals and channeling of energy is. Healing of what, exactly, and under what conditions? What energy, exactly? I was taken to a "spiritual" service by a Christian friend where a very charismatic Indian chap darted around a lot, called people up to the front and laid his hands on them. One or two people fainted, probably from dizziness or excitement. It was all terribly melodramatic and proved nothing. Nobody disabled got up and walked, and there was no externally verifiable evidence of anybody having been "healed".

And if it can be done, why has nobody claimed James Randi's Million Dollar Prize yet?

mummydoc · 13/12/2006 12:26

I have recently read the book having thought my oversensitive , highly strung dd1 might fit this, but tbh i think itis twaddle, i htink the op ds sounds liek he has a healthy imagination and is creative and interesting and probably quite intelligent and by no way should be dismissed or laughed at but i htink this indigo labelling is just another form of labelling what is just the normal varients on human developement. but quite like the colour so i guess better than being " the magenta child" or "the pondweed green child"

LittleSarah · 13/12/2006 12:31

Thanks for that link unquietdad, have never heard of James Randi, sounds very interesting indeed.

UnquietDad · 13/12/2006 12:34

He's very big in the States. People are very hostile to him. He says he has to keep exposing these frauds because there are so few other people doing it. I first encountered him on cable TV in the 90s in Germany - I think it was the Sally Jessy Raphael show. A woman said to him, with a mixture of horor and pity, "Don't you BELIEVE in GAWD?" to which JR spread his hands and said, "Tell me which God you mean. There are a lot of 'em!"

sunnysideup · 13/12/2006 12:42

mummydoc I agree with you. The list earlier probably applies largely to 99% of children.

I think we should allow children to be children and to use their imaginations in any way they need to, without ascribing spiritual or supernatural things to them. They are simply children developing and using their imaginations. All children say strange things at times.

I think people can think all they like about 'indigo' children or children sent by god to help the world so long as not a BREATH of this is transmitted to the child. Childhood is a scary enough time without the pressure of the adults around you thinking you may have 'powers'....they just need to be allowed to be children without any inferences put on what they say or do. That stuff is a spiritual construct by adults and should be left with the adults not transmitted to the child. It's different to a child being brought up in a religion because this is centring on the child and their actual being in a way that can not be helpful to their emotional development.

FLAMEinEckItsYuleAgain · 13/12/2006 12:42

oh god no - no the standing in front of everyone jumping up and down yelling "i'm healed" business. My only personal experience was more of an emotional healing - I was an 11 yr old girl having anxiety attacks, and I was taken to a building and sat in a chair in a very quiet dimly lit room where a man hovvered his hands over me. At that time I didn't know why I was there, or what he was meant to be doing (no idea why I didn't question it). The panic attacks stopped and I slept well for the first time in months.

That kind of thing cannot be proved by tests.

FLAMEinEckItsYuleAgain · 13/12/2006 12:44

not the standing up etc even

GlennCloseAsCruellaDeVille · 13/12/2006 13:01

I think it's perfectly reasonable to join a discussion on any of the mumsnet boards..sceptism and a questioning attitude is healthy

we wouldn't get very far if philosophy and religion and sprirituality were not areas of debate

UnquietDad · 13/12/2006 13:06

"That kind of thing cannot be proved by tests."

How enormously convenient.

I suppose it's too obvious to point out that you've no way of knowing the anxiety attacks wouldn't have stopped anyway.

ShinyHappyStarOfBethlehem · 13/12/2006 13:20

Regarding healing; I was Reiki attuned several years ago. I don't claim to be at all clear about what went on during the "attunement", (which was a day course) but I know I can do it now. As far as I understand these things, the healing does not come from "me", (and it doesn't feel as if it does), it goes through me, or rather my hands. I am a Reiki channel and anyone can be one. I can channel Universal Energy. (Some people describe this as chi or even God.)

This came about when I went to a charity coffee morning where a lady was giving taster sessions of reflexology. She immediately asked me if I was a healer of any kind; I said no but I could do with being seeing as I have so much illness and chronic pain among my close family. She became very animated and all but insisted I call a collegue of hers who does Reiki attunement. She said I would be able to help my family members, in particular DH who has psoriatic arthritis and is always in some kind of pain, sometimes acutely. It took me a few months but eventually I rang the woman and my best friend and I went and had the attunement (as it is best performed in pairs apparently.) We paid a (small) donation towards being attuned as neither my friend or I are very well off. Reiki Masters (attuners) often charge something because they are doing this day in and day out most of the time so have to be able to live on something.

Both of us have used Reiki very successfully ever since. I came straight home that day and 'treated' my mum who was suffering from sinisitus. She was humouring me.. but she could not believe how much better she felt afterwards. My children, when suffering from some ache or pain, or when actually unwell, come and ask for 'a Reiki'.. they seem to feel and be able to describe the healing sensation very clearly, especially my daughter (who was 8 yesterday.)

The biggest benefits have been for DH. He is SO not a bloke who worries himself over spiritual matters.. he is a real 'plodder' bless him, who focuses only on day-to-day matters although to his credit he does not automatically dismiss anything for which he cannot immediately understand or relate to. He used to LIVE on Co-proxamol (when they were still readily available! ) but these days, his supply of painkillers (co-codamols now) are mostly sitting in the cupboard untouched. He only uses them on very bad days or during a proper arthritis flare up. I treat him in short sharp bursts as we rarely have time for a proper 40 minute treatment (recommended time) and he is ALWAYS in less pain afterwards, sometimes none. You can see the tension drain out of him. Sometimes my friend and I treat him together and he gets quicker and stronger relief from the pain.

All we do is lay our hands on the person. Depending on the person/situation/problem, heat soon floods into my hands and I move them about (reposition them) as I feel necessary until the heat goes away. It isn't the same as the heat you get from any hand contact, in fact, often it's not even skin-to-skin, you can do it through clothes or even without quite touching the body. It still works.

I benefit too from it. In fact Reiki healers are supposed to self treat regularly even if they are not 'suffering' from anything in particular. When I remember to (usually before falling asleep at night) I always feel better/less stressed and anxious. I also helped myself a lot when I was suffering from a mild asthma attack a year or so ago.

Apparently Reiki will always do something positive for the person being treated, even if if it 'only' making them feel better emotionally. My husband doesn't doubt what Reiki does for him at all.. he asks for it often.. he just doesn't concern himself over how is works!

Just wondering if you would dismiss this 'story' as complete rubbish as well UnQuiet dad? Genunely interested in your views.

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