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Issue at church

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Sunshineleaves31 · 21/08/2015 15:53

Just wanted some thoughts on the situation described below. It's a bit long and it's kind of a way to get things off my chest without offending anyone I actually know!

I'm a Christian with an agnostic husband. I have been a regular attendee at my CofE church that I've been an active member of for the last five years (been on the PCC, done fundraising, helped organise social events, worked with the food bank and night shelter). I got married there last year.

This year I have become pregnant and it's been a really tough pregnancy with lots of complications, which has made me down and withdrawn a lot of the time. I've had little energy and not been in a good place.

One of the things the church preaches about it the importance of attending and the need for good pastoral care and care of parishioners. For the last two months I haven't felt able to deal with the congregation in large numbers so I have either not been going or going to another, much smaller CofE church, where I can just do the service and then leave.

Last Sunday my husband persuaded me that it might be good to go back to the original church and see how it was, I think he has been trying to help me find ways to lift my mood.

When I got there I felt a little uneasy and then afterwards a couple of people spoke to us. In the conversation there were some comments about 'Oh I suppose you've been too busy working to come' and 'Haven't you turned into strangers'. The rest of it was pretty superficial (weather, holidays, did you enjoy the sermon, etc).

I left feeling a more hurt and angry than when I arrived. I guess part of me feels that after all that talk of pastoral care I feel kind of let down. I know that no one can read minds so don't know that I'm in a bad place but I thought that maybe people might have asked 'How are you?' or maybe even congratulated me on being pregnant (I'm six months so it shows!) rather than getting digs in about my non-attendance.

Anyway, it's rather a non-issue really but it has been upsetting me a bit all week. I know Christians are in no way perfect but I thought that people I'd worked with, prayed with and taken an active interest in for all this time might have reacted a bit differently to the situation. I don't know whether to give up going there and find another church or stay put and tough it out.

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AGnu · 21/08/2015 15:58

Are you sure they were having a dig & not trying to express that they'd noticed you weren't around & were trying to gently find out why? Sounds like the sort of thing I'd do - I'm always worried about coming across as too nosy/rude so try to ask innocent questions that could get deeper answers if the other person wanted to talk about it. Is there anyone you're particularly close to that you could speak to about what's been going on & maybe ask them to get the church to pray for you? You might find that support a lot more forthcoming if you mention that it's needed! Wink

Sunshineleaves31 · 21/08/2015 16:21

Thanks for the reply!

I know where you're coming from with asking for help and I know that people aren't mind readers but I feel really awkward saying 'Oh by the way . . .' and don't know how to start the conversation.

In terms of the two people who spoke to me, they're more in the evangelical hardline of our church (it has a wide range of beliefs from the very liberal to the very conservative) and they are generally the ones that say things because they think you are behaving 'un Christian' e.g. not attending rather than anything else. I tried not to take it to heart but my resilience is low at the moment so I think this is why it's all upset me more than it should.

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AGnu · 22/08/2015 02:16

In that case, I think an appropriate response to them would've been "actually, I've been really struggling because of pregnancy complications & a lack of support from my church family who seem more interested in unfairly judging me than being good Christian people who support others in their time of need." Accompanied with a hard stare, a head tilt & a raised eyebrow. Go on, I dare you! Wink

Take a deep breath, roll your eyes & get in touch with some of the nicer lot. If they're not immediately round to yours with cake & offers of doing your ironing then you need a different church! People do have a tendency to get involved with their own lives & occasionally wonder what's happened to people they've not seen for a while but unless they know there's an issue they may just assume your priorities have changed.

I'm being completely hypocritical... I'm terrible for missing church for a few weeks & then getting grumpy if no-one comments or calls to ask if I'm ok! Blush

WishIWasWonderwoman · 22/08/2015 02:36

Hmm they sound a bit unkind but maybe some of it was well meant. If you go back and are asked again you could go with AGnu's reply (or a gentler variant- yes, I've been quite unwell due to my pregnancy and unable to make it. It's so nice to be able to come in, I've been looking forward to having support from my church family. )

Does your church have some kind of prayer list on the programme or something? Could you ask to be prayed for, something like for sunshine leaves who is unwell/who is struggling with her pregnancy/who is having a hard time?

It's tough, maybe go back a couple of times and if you still feel the same way look at other congregations?

And Smile Flowers Cake congratulations on your pregnancy!

anotherbusymum14 · 22/08/2015 16:23

Yes congratulations on your pregnancy! By the way, I think you can just honest about it. Tell whoever you have worked with there or people who kind of know you about how you are doing. A lot of problems arise when we dont tell people how we are doing, and your church friends and leaders cannot mind read, so just tell them kindly... "I've been really tired, finding it harder recently.. actually could go with some support myself".

Instead of going in there annoyed at how it feels like they've responded (or even a lack of response/understanding) just communicate clearly and calmly your needs. They might surprise you, and if they really don't understand your season right now then you may need realize it hasn't been as healthy there as you hoped. Hope it works out for you xx

springydaffs · 05/09/2015 23:49

It was probably their way to not pry, they just said something non-committal. It actually sounds like they were trying not to judge?

But im(extensive)e, a more fucked up bunch you couldn't wish to meet as Christians. I know, don't be shocked... or get used to it. We're all a nightmare. I'm serious! Good job we have a saviour - who came to save the sick Wink

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