HAs science answered how God flooded the earth?

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www.newscientist.com/article/dn25723-massive-ocean-discovered-towards-earths-core/

A great flood is mentioned in many ancient cultures and religious text.

What do you think?

It's alarming that some christians get excited about crackpot proof that God drowned all but 8 humans at one time, that it doesn't bother them that, well, that God drowned every human, man, woman and child but 8. Can you imagine all those babies floating face down in water. And then they worship the being that did it.

Yes Alan, I've often wondered why children's Noah's Ark toys don't come with millions of little babies with their heads smashed against the rocks, and countless dead men, women, children and animals rotting in the water.

Ahhhh, but it's such a lovely story

I think you are forgetting that those babies were sinning babies, Alan and TTWK

The fact that there wasn't ever a 100% land animal extinction proves that there wasn't a worldwide flood in the last, say, 1000 million years.
Then there's the lack of any layers showing deposits by water at the same geological time everywhere.
In addition to that, and in relation to human times, there's human genetics that puts the last common ancestors at many thousands of years and in Africa.
Is this enough?

in your rule book

And in yours too. I gather you function on a day to day basis using logic and evidence? If you actually operated on the basis that 'I don't know it didn't happen therefore it did' you would be an active believer in every single religion and believe everything that anyone has told you is the truth, and I'm almost certain that that is not the case. If I told you I saw a green and purple yeti in my garden this morning you've got to believe me haven't you, unless you're an intellectual hypocrite and don't actually subscribe to the ridiculous logical model you reckon you do.

Well yes, those evil sinning babies. They deserved it, which is why God can be forgiven for not preventing child abuse, because at the end of the day they're not innocent, and god can do what he likes really. Funny how some Christians claim free will as a reason for God not preventing human suffering, but then simultaneously believe that he rode roughshod over such sacrosanct free will while he was killing everyone.

The story of the flood is the one that convinced me as a child that the God of the OT was not all He was cracked up to be- it's a very disturbing tale.

Thank goodness it didn't happen as described.

Well,and it's also to do with his bigger plan, remember. He had something better in store for those babies, which we cannot know since we mustn't presume to know the mind of god.

It makes you wonder, would God have got pissed off if there had been some humanitarian charity like the Red Cross at the time that was attempting to save the evil babies? Maybe God gets pissed off with the NSPCC for similar reasons today?

He had something better in store for those babies, which we cannot know since we mustn't presume to know the mind of god.

If we can't presume to know the mind of god then we can't presume to know that what he had in store for those babies was somehow "better".

Shall I just report myself for being aggressive and disrespectful and cut out the middle man?

Or you could just tell us all about your famous teapot.

Howard I was definitely being sarcastic about the bigger plan... it's all ludicrous really.

I always wondered why the fish and whales weren't on Gods shit list in the flood.

How did the animals in Australia and America get there after the flood when the ark apparently grounded on a mountain in the middle East.

Best cartoon I ever saw had two dinosaurs looking at the ark sailing away and saying "Shit, was that today".

Don'tya just love the Noah's Arlk Tale.

I think it's especially nice for kids to hear heartwarming stories of mass genocide. Gets them to sleep in no time.

If you're committed to religion, don't go searching for proof. Your world will unravel, because there is no proof. This is why we call it 'belief'. It has no basis in fact, no one has found any evidence, those who care about evidence are atheists.

Most fish, whales and other marine animals would have been screwed too if the Noah's Ark tale was true. They can only cope with a certain range of temperature/salinity/turbidity and the very sudden addition of vast amounts of fresh water to the seas would have caused massive changes to all those things.

One would have to wonder what the dinosaurs did that pissed off god so badly. And pterodactyls and mosassaurs and plesiosaurs. And mammoths.

can't see the OP coming back. She/he probably isn't one for rational argument, listening to other viewpoints or logical thought.

this is why the human race is in such deep shit, because she/he isn't alone.

Back to the OP, I saw an interesting programme on whilst tellyzapping which was, I think, exploring this theory in more detail. Cut'n'pasted here from National Geographical:

Columbia University geologists William Ryan and Walter Pitman, are exploing the theory that as the Ice Age ended and glaciers melted, a wall of seawater surged from the Mediterranean into the Black Sea. During the Ice Age, Ryan and Pitman argue, the Black Sea was an isolated freshwater lake surrounded by farmland. About 12,000 years ago, toward the end of the Ice Age, Earth began growing warmer. Vast sheets of ice that sprawled over the Northern Hemisphere began to melt. Oceans and seas grew deeper as a result. About 7,000 years ago the Mediterranean Sea swelled. Seawater pushed northward, slicing through what is now Turkey. Funneled through the narrow Bosporus, the water hit the Black Sea with 200 times the force of Niagara Falls. Each day the Black Sea rose about six inches (15 centimeters), and coastal farms were flooded. Seared into the memories of terrified survivors, the tale of the flood was passed down through the generations and eventually became the Noah story.

For those living in the Mediterranean countries in Old Testament times, stories of an apocalyptic flood in that region would then easily be interpreted to be a flood of the whole (known) world, even though its impacts were not worldwide as we know it.

So maybe the OP would like the thread to be retitled along the lines of 'Has science explained how natural processes caused catastrophic flooding in the prehistoric Mediterranean which people may have mythologised?'

Flooding is quite a traumatic experience, which is not surprising to have made it to the OT, long with other catastrophes, such as fire from the sky in Sodom and Gomorrah, the plagues of Egypt. Even the parting of the Red Sea.
As for the flooding, it would be more likely that some farm and wild animals survived a particularly bad one by reaching high land.
On the other hand, it could well have started with some guy who managed to predict one flood and survive on a raft with his own animals.

Where is the evidence it didn't happen?

There is a finite amount of water on the planet, it evaporates from lakes and sea, becomes clouds and then rains. For the world to flood you would need extra water and then you would need some way to get rid of it.

Rock formations can show when and where places flooded and have been eroded by nature such as the grand canyon, no evidence of a global flood.

No folk stores / legends about a great flood outside a certain area in what is now the middle east.