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If you could control justice, what would your choices be?

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SBGA · 09/09/2014 08:20

I'm really interested to see if everyone has the same opinion of how they'd run their perfect justice system; what would be considered a crime and what would be a suitable punishment to achieve good and right justice?

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combust22 · 09/09/2014 13:24

What has prompted such a question?

SBGA · 09/09/2014 17:08

Ah - you don't return a question with a question! Wink

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SBGA · 09/09/2014 17:12

In all seriousness, I am interested in whether everyone has a different take on it or whether everyone is after the same thing

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DulcetMoans · 09/09/2014 17:17

Oooohhhh, deep. I like it but I can't think of an answer. Feels too big!

I know that, whilst murder would be a crime - the death punishment would not be the justice for that. I'm not for that!

What else...? I am very much for community justice for more community based crimes like graffiti, criminal damage, etc. in perhaps the naive hope it would help them realise the impact of their actions.

Oh, and leggings being worn as trousers would be illegal.

AnyoneForTARDIS · 10/09/2014 17:18

Not so much an eye for an eye, but give them a taste of their own medicine.

SBGA · 10/09/2014 18:25

Eye for an eye - for everything or just the biggies?

If just the big stuff then what do you
Consider to be majorly serious enough

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AnyoneForTARDIS · 10/09/2014 18:30

Burglary/assault/rape/abuse.

I remember a makeover programme with Colin and Justin in a housing estate and a teen had vandalised-graffitied etc something belonging to someone else so they got a replica possesion he had and vandalsised it to show him how hed feel, and he was devastated and said hed never vandalise again.

SBGA · 10/09/2014 22:03

That's really interesting!

I wouldn't fancy being the person hired to rape a rapist though...

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Dutchoma · 11/09/2014 10:54

I think justice would have to begin long before a crime was committed. It is no excuse to say that a murderer 'only' did it because he came from a broken home, it certainly wouldn't be justice to kill him in turn. But why was the home 'broken'? Was there any justice in dad losing his job and turning to the bottle? There is so much more to 'justice' than there is to retribution.

SBGA · 11/09/2014 14:21

An intriguing viewpoint. How would you realistically begin justice before a crime is committed though, as not all children of drunk parents commit crimes.

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Dutchoma · 11/09/2014 14:52

There should be justice before crime. Justice is the state of affairs where crime is no longer necessary. How would you begin? No idea, other than to say that individually we should "act justly, seek mercy and walk humbly with our God" (Micah 6:8).
But it is maybe outside of the question the OP asked as she was interested in what we would consider a 'crime' and how we would deal with it.

It goes from the premise that 'crime' demands 'punishment' and I'm not even sure that is the right this to begin with.

SBGA · 11/09/2014 15:26

What do you think is more appropriate than to punish a crime?

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Dutchoma · 11/09/2014 15:59

Thinking about it I remembered hearing abot a school for small children (may have been a Montessori school) where, when a child had been 'naughty, it was put on a chair in the middle of the room and all the children were asked to be extra kind to that child, maybe bringing it a toy. if only we could kill crime with kindness, we might be less at risk of doling out injustice and making a bad situation worse.
Jesus said we should be kind to our enemies.

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