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Forgiveness

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niminypiminy · 22/03/2014 09:47

The thread on Christians and personal responsibility has now gone somewhere else, and I'm busy today and can't come back to it until later, but am just dropping in to post a link to a really interesting article by Desmond Tutu about forgiveness. It's most germane to the original discussion on that thread, and I hope people might find it interesting.

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A couple of extracts:
Forgiveness is not dependent on the actions of others. Yes, it is certainly easier to offer forgiveness when the perpetrator expresses remorse and offers some sort of reparation or restitution. Then, you can feel as if you have been paid back in some way. You can say: "I am willing to forgive you for stealing my pen, and after you give me my pen back, I shall forgive you." This is the most familiar pattern of forgiveness. We don't forgive to help the other person. We don't forgive for others. We forgive for ourselves. Forgiveness, in other words, is the best form of self-interest.

Forgiveness takes practice, honesty, open-mindedness and a willingness (even if it is a weary willingness) to try. It isn't easy. Perhaps you have already tried to forgive someone and just couldn't do it. Perhaps you have forgiven and the person did not show remorse or change his or her behaviour or own up to his or her offences – and you find yourself unforgiving all over again. It is perfectly normal to want to hurt back when you have been hurt. But hurting back rarely satisfies. We think it will, but it doesn't. If I slap you after you slap me, it does not lessen the sting I feel on my own face, nor does it diminish my sadness over the fact that you have struck me. Retaliation gives, at best, only momentary respite from our pain. The only way to experience healing and peace is to forgive. Until we can forgive, we remain locked in our pain and locked out of the possibility of experiencing healing and freedom, locked out of the possibility of being at peace.

... The simple truth is, we all make mistakes, and we all need forgiveness. There is no magic wand we can wave to go back in time and change what has happened or undo the harm that has been done, but we can do everything in our power to set right what has been made wrong. We can endeavour to make sure the harm never happens again.

There are times when all of us have been thoughtless, selfish or cruel. But no act is unforgivable; no person is beyond redemption. Yet, it is not easy to admit one's wrongdoing and ask for forgiveness. "I am sorry" are perhaps the three hardest words to say. We can come up with all manner of justifications to excuse what we have done. When we are willing to let down our defences and look honestly at our actions, we find there is a great freedom in asking for forgiveness and great strength in admitting the wrong. It is how we free ourselves from our past errors. It is how we are able to move forward into our future, unfettered by the mistakes we have made.

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capsium · 24/03/2014 10:40

Phew!

I find it difficult to express myself in words sometimes. People have read what I written in a (very) different way to what I intended before. Blush

niminypiminy · 24/03/2014 10:41

Listentothelady that is an extremely helpful distinction to make. Thank you.

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cheapskatemum · 24/03/2014 18:33

I wasn't demanding that you forgive either, Atthestroke. I was thinking of Corrie Ten Booth, who found herself forgiving an SS officer from the concentration camp she was in. The payback was incredible, and entirely unexpected!

Maisie0 · 12/04/2014 19:02

Very good article. I think this is the first time I came across something that made it so clear to see what is indeed forgiveness. If you have already distanced yourself from someone else, and then also tried to forgive them from a distance but the hurt still exists. This is a burden to you. This is a very good explanation. I also do agree about the apologizing for the sake of it, and not truly meaning this. The sincerity can be missing more often than not.

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niminypiminy · 17/04/2014 17:13

Crescentmoon I saw that story too. It is amazing, and inspiring.

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springydaffs · 27/04/2014 16:48

I don't think forgiveness is letting someone off at all. Or not necessarily. Forgiveness is letting go the need for justice or revenge and I forgive because it's a healthy habit, if you like: what they did was bad enough, I don't want to be holding it to my chest for it to damage me more.

I also wonder if unforgiveness is getting in the way of God doing his thing with that person. ie I am holding it so God can't get to it.

I have forgiven people for heinous things but I don't necessarily feel warm or compassionate towards them. Sometimes compassion flits across my consciousness but who and what they are is not my business, it's God's business. imo compassion is not what forgiveness is about: forgiveness is a discipline that I do for my spiritual (therefore psychological, emotional... physical?) health; compassion is separate to that. God has been pretty clear about forgiveness and I just do it out of obedience (ie I trust what he says). I don't see the heinous people and I'd be an idiot to, they'd just do it all over again.

springydaffs · 27/04/2014 16:50

I should say, I give it to God, to do with what he deems fit. It's a relief tbf - I can trust him to do the right thing for all concerned.

springydaffs · 27/04/2014 17:02

And I pray for my enemies! Again, because I was told to and I trust the teller. I absolutely believe this is not only in my best interests but all concerned eg the person wouldn't have done the bad or terrible thing if they were healthy. So I generally pray for them but it's pretty perfunctory not easy and I strain not to add on 'could you get them please' and I want them to get it hard, as they gave it to me, if I'm honest. But that's natural and not my business what God does with them: I don't want their horribleness on me. Forgiveness is sometimes instant but more often that not it is a process and you have to revisit it again and again.

Sorry to go on!

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