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hideous hymns, vocal vicars and theatrical thuribles. Religious Chat Thread Number 6!

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nickelbabe · 17/02/2013 19:24

Welcome to the Religion Chat thread.
We're mostly Christians, but all are welcome.
a lovely soace to talk about church life, spiritual journeys and stuff in general.
It's not about debate, it's about chat.
Come oldies and newbies!

this is the previous thread

OP posts:
MadHairDay · 23/03/2013 10:21

Hello italiangreyhound :) What stage are you in the adopting process? How lovely and exciting :)

hiddenhome · 24/03/2013 13:26

Hello everyone Smile

Hope we all have a beautiful and fulfilling Holy Week.

Tuo · 24/03/2013 17:40

Hello all... I just felt the need to come here and tell you all - but especially greenheart, who I know has also suffered from freezing church syndrome this winter - that the underfloor heating is up and running. My toes were toasty today. Toasty, I tell you! Can you tell how excited I am? Grin

janeyjampot · 24/03/2013 17:49

Very envious of the toasty toes. Mine were only kept from freezing because my junior church group took to our Palm Sunday drama with enthusiasm and I found myself running around trying to look as if I was vaguely in control. :)

MadHairDay do you go to New Wine in the summer?

UniqueAndAmazing · 25/03/2013 13:43

toasty toes.

we were talking with CWs yesterday about using our lottery win for the church's underfloor heating.
Grin

had a lovely day yesterday, if exhausting!
Curate took the morning service. she has such a lovely voice and way of conducting the service.
and we had the APCM before other-church's afternoon service. with tea/food afterwards. yummy.
We voted off the pompous secretary and voted in someone else. (JC's dad actually)
don't know if PS will be voted as a co-opted member for impartial secretarial role or what will happen for that.

then we watched a little bit of the afternoon service.
was the first time I'd seen Curate preaching from the front! (normally just see the back of her head)
her history is Youth Work, and other-church has a tendency towards young people, and her way of talking to the congregation is just lovely.

Tuo · 25/03/2013 15:15

Curate = NVW, no? Or am I losing the plot? (This is more than possible...) Have you invited her for coffee and to buy lots of books yet?

I can soooooooooooooo (not enough 'o's in the whole world to sum up how much) recommend underfloor heating. The joy! The whole building looks amazing, actually... I absolutely love it. But the heating is the best bit!

UniqueAndAmazing · 25/03/2013 15:18

yes, NVW Grin
she's so lovely, I am totally in love with her Grin

I haven't invited her for coffee yet, no, but I am working up to it!
I did invite her to Busy Bees, and she came a couple of times. (possibly not just on my request)

thegreenheartofmanyroundabouts · 25/03/2013 15:54

It is very wrong to covert another church's underfloor heating but I'm feeling that coming over me. Yesterday was so cold I had furry boots on under the cassock and cassock alb.

Hoping that everyone has a stress free and blessed holy week - I'll feel alot better when the Easter Day sermon is in the bag.

thegreatestMadHairDayinhistory · 25/03/2013 16:02

Another one coveting underfloor heating here! I was freezing yesterday, despite sitting next to the sodding useless heater.

Janey, yes I go to NW summer, I go to the North one, what about you?

nickel - service sounded lovely and NVW sounds lovely :)

UniqueAndAmazing · 25/03/2013 16:38

sooooo cold.
cassocks are gooood, but so very cold hands. JC had his jumper pulled over his hands! he looked like he had no hands Grin

other church was freeeeeeezing yesterday evening. you couldn't feel the heat 2 ft away from the radiators, but they were baking hot.

UniqueAndAmazing · 25/03/2013 16:38

NVW is very lovely indeed. :)

Tuo · 25/03/2013 18:02

I would like to just point out that we have spent some of the time since Christmas with no heating at all, and before that it was worse than useless, so I am not just indulging in random boasting much here! Wink

I don't want to out myself really, but would so love to share how beautiful our church is now, all golden (that is, light and with clean stonework) and open and welcoming. It's just beautiful. I think I've said that before. I'm so pleased with it. Have I mentioned? Grin

I am serving for the Chrism Mass on Thursday morning and have no idea what's going to happen. I've only served once before and this will be my first time with the new layout. The procession bit will be fine (rule of thumb = follow crucifer...) but I can't remember the order in which things have to be passed up to the altar or at which point the president's hands need to be washed, and because this isn't my regular service I'm serving with someone I don't know at all and I'm worried I'll look like an idiot. And what happens with the oil is anyone's guess... Confused.

Dutchoma · 25/03/2013 19:42

Oh TUO rather you than me. You will look lovely in whatever outfit you are wearing, I'm sure. Maybe Mary can tell you?

janeyjampot · 25/03/2013 20:00

MadHairDay I go to NW North as well. The first time we went we were very apprehensive but now it's the highlight of the year for us. My DDs are both on teams this year for the first time, so it will be a different experience this time I think, but we are all looking forward to it :)

UniqueAndAmazing · 25/03/2013 22:29

tuo, get there early, explain that yoy're new to serving and ask for help. they'll be so chuffed to be asked and assumed to know everything :)

MaryBS · 26/03/2013 13:25

Not been to a Chrism mass myself, but what happens when serving is as follows (and remembering I'm not a server):

(I presume you won't be preparing the altar, just serving?)
Give the chalice/paten/corporal/purificator to the Celebrant, and he/she will prepare the altar (or deacon may do this). The ciborium/flagons will either be on a credence table, or will be presented as part of the Offertory. Give the ciborium to the priest/deacon.
Bow
The wine flagon hold in your right, the water in your left, handles out.

Give the wine flagon the the Celebrant, transfer the water flagon to your right, receive the wine flagon back in the left, hand over the water flagon.
Receive water flagon back, bow.
Return to credence table
There may be a money offertory too - will you be receiving this? In which case sidespeople will present you with this, you bow to them, and hold the collection up to the celebrant to bless, before placing it wherever it goes.
Lavabo bowl in left hand, lavabo towel over left wrist, pour water over celebrants fingers, he will then use the lavabo towel to dry fingers
Bow, return to credence table

Thats pretty much it as I recall. Bowing might vary from tradition to tradition, if anyone bows, you bow back is the rule of thumb :o

Dutchoma · 26/03/2013 16:06

See, I knew Mary would know what to do. Grin

niminypiminy · 26/03/2013 17:03

Just heard from the DDO that all the BAP places up till the end of June are full. This means I'd have to wait a whole year more before starting training.

Gutted, gutted, gutted, gutted.

This has been such a terrible week so far -- I'm beginning to wonder what else can go wrong.

Oh, Lord, how long will you hide your face from me.

Dutchoma · 26/03/2013 17:06

Oh Niminy how very disappointing for you. It's not as if you didn't apply early enough. Gutted for you.

UniqueAndAmazing · 26/03/2013 17:18

niminy :(

I know how you feel - I seem to be surrounded by disappointment too :(

There's stuff you can do in the meantime, though, there must be.
throw yourself into as much stuff that will look good on your next application as you can.

Badvoc · 26/03/2013 17:25

Niminy...I know just how you feel ATM :(
Gosh, haven't been on for ages!
Mums op went ok, dad is having tests now which is a worry.
March has been a bit disastrous due to ill health (we have all had this awful virus) and part of the house feel down.
Oh, and a job offer that I had for sept has fallen through...
But other than that, things are ok! :)
Have a blessed Easter everyone x

niminypiminy · 26/03/2013 17:51

Thanks ladies. I know I'll manage the extra year somehow. It's just that it feels crushingly disappointing at the moment. I just keep on crying, and I don't know how I'll cope. Too much has been going wrong lately.

thegreatestMadHairDayinhistory · 26/03/2013 19:09

Oh. Niminy. :-(

In bed on phone so can't type much, but just wanted to send love. That's just cap.

So much is hard for so many of US right now. :-( keep holding on...

thegreatestMadHairDayinhistory · 26/03/2013 19:11

crap , us

Stupid phone

Tuo · 26/03/2013 20:57

(((niminy))) - more anon...

Mary - I love you! Mwah!

[repeats to self] kit (=shorthand for all that stuff you said) - flagons - lavabo; kit - flagons - lavabo; kit - flagons - lavabo... Got it! Offertory is covered by crucifer, so that's one less thing to worry about. I will report back on Thursday p.m. and let you know how it goes.

On Sunday, our new altar was consecrated and the Bishop was very generous with the oil of chrism and incense and the smell was amazing...! I was thinking 'Mary should be here; she'd love this!'.

Love and prayers to everyone having a tough time atm. Thanks