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was it a sign??????????

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redbull · 11/04/2006 08:44

sunday night me and my dp had a huge arrgument throughout it the TV turned over channels 5 times??? the TV remote was nowhere near us then yesterday as i was waiting for him to come home from work i was thinking how i would apologise to him at the same time as moping the hall floor when all of a sudden the hall light started flickering, it went really bright then really dull and i found my self saying out loud yes i know i over reacted dont worry i will apologise and every thing will be allright i know you will make sure it is???????????
ive never done anything like that before.
do you think it was a sign from someone trying to tell us how stupid we were being???

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fransmom · 17/04/2006 10:34

i believe fast asleep, but then greensleeves has her own choices to make about whether she believes someone or not but then she shouldn't ridicule others for their choices either......

Socci · 17/04/2006 10:44

oh yes - of course people are entitled to their opinions - I don't dispute that. But to write "hogwash" on someone's thread is unnecessary and not polite imo.

fransmom · 17/04/2006 10:46

no it isn't. my post was more of a hint to greensleeves than to advocate her post.

Greensleeves · 17/04/2006 11:48

No, I certainly won't retract my remark.

"Hogwash" is a colloqial word meaning "nonsense".

In my opinion the OP's suggestions were nonsensical. If you don't like my opinion - tough. It's not her thread, it's a public forum. :)

Socci · 17/04/2006 11:58

Yes but you didn't qualify your opinion. Usually if I don't have anything useful to contribute to a thread then I don't.

Anyone can post what they like on here but that doesn't make it right or a decent way to behave.

Greensleeves · 17/04/2006 12:06

That's a fair comment Socci.

I think this sort of thing is at best nonsense, at worst actively harmful/damaging to those who are drawn into believing it. Hence my rather forceful reaction.

The thread title was "was it a sign?". This invites comment from those who don't subscribe to this stuff as well as from those who do. And no, I'm not always polite. Complain to MN if it wounds you so deeply to have your superstitions labelled as "hogwash". I've certainly heard worse .

SaintGeorge · 17/04/2006 12:10

Hogwash didn't bother me - the bonkers comment was a bit unpleasant though.

Although IMO this particular incident is not spirit related, I do subscribe to the belief that spirit contact is possible. Indeed it makes up a part of my religion.

This thread is posted under Philosophy/Religion/Spirituality and as such should be treated with a little more respect. There would be an uproar if you made such comments about a main stream religion.

Greensleeves · 17/04/2006 12:14

No, there wouldn't. People regularly make overtly offensive remarks about Christianity, particularly Catholicism, without uproar. "Barking" (the word I used) is positively mild compared to some of the things I've read about Catholics.

Greensleeves · 17/04/2006 12:20

...and "barking" was in response to being called "cynical", which I am not. Not believing in things that go bump in the night doesn't indicate cynicism at all. I don't particularly mind being called names, as long as they're not obscene, vindictive or personal, and I don't believe most others here are deeply hurt by it either. You are splitting hairs.

SaintGeorge · 17/04/2006 12:24

I didn't say I was deeply hurt. Tougher skin than that.

Greensleeves · 17/04/2006 12:25

Good . Mind you, you'd have to have skin like rhino hide to be a Catholic on here (or a Muslim for that matter).

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redbull · 19/04/2006 10:38

Just to clarify Greensleeves you did upset me as i truely believe it was my grandad and i felt as if you were mocking my belief and my grandad.

For Everyone else the last couple of nights (i have strange dreams sometimes that do happen or talk to close people that have past away) i have had loads of dreams about my grandad looking his best and talking to him over a cup of tea, and he told me it was him that he wanted me to know that he was still here around me keeping tabs on the family and that is really reasuring weather it was real or not i just found it very comforting

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Greensleeves · 19/04/2006 10:42

I'm sorry I upset you. It was certainly not my intention to mock your grandad/you personally or trespass on your loss.

However I do think that this sort of superstition is potentially dangerous and damaging to people who get drawn into believing it. I doubt I am alone in that view.

schneebly · 19/04/2006 10:44

OOOH - SOUNDS CRREEPY!

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redbull · 19/04/2006 11:01

Its down to each individual what they want to read and believe in i myself dont believe in most of the phycics (excuse spelling!) as i think they are con artists and just after the money but you do get the real ones who really are phycic.

All i know and can say is that this did and really does happen to me its 100% real and its down to every person that reads this weather they belive it or not i cant force anyone to im not in a cult nor do i have any voodoo dolls so i can take controll over you and make you believe me (except for robbie williams ).

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SaintGeorge · 19/04/2006 11:37

You see, there you go again Greensleeves.

"However I do think that this sort of superstition is potentially dangerous and damaging to people who get drawn into believing it."

This is part of a religious belief system for some and to have it called superstition and potentially dangerous is insulting.

Bugsy2 · 19/04/2006 11:50

redbull, if you want to see it as a sign - then that is fine. I suspect that you had been mulling over the argument most of the day and you had come to the conclusion that you were going to apologise anyway.
To be honest, I think it is more likely that your light bulb is reaching the end of its life or that you had some minor electricity surge and possibly someone near you has a remote that intefered with your television or maybe one of you had an infra red on your mobile which intefered.
However, my interpretation doesn't matter. Perhaps you subconsciously remembered that it was about this time of year that your Grandad had died and that he would have given you some good advice about making up with your dp. It really doesn't matter, the most important thing is that you and your dp are ok again.

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