CALLING MUSLIMS - urgent matter, need your advice or knowledge

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Asalaamalaikum

I will break this matter down very simply because it's urgent and needs to be sorted out.

A sister divorced her husband by khul and she gave him back the mahr of £500 (dowry) he gave her in return for her khul. They are now back together after about 6 months apart and are marrying again today in a new marriage contract.

The problem : the sister's friend had a husband who gave her the £500 mahr to make her life easy so she could get her khul asap. She didnt have any money as far as I know at that time to be able to pay the full mahr for the khul. Now they have got back together all of a sudden, the husband would like that money he paid for the sister, back.

Your perspectives?

One sister who knows the situation feels that the friend's husband should have that mahr money paid back to him as the couple have got back together again.
I'm also of that opinion.
Don't know if anyone here will even answer :S it's such a mess

Ok I"m not Muslim but I think out of decency the sister and her husband should repay the £500 to the friend's husband. THe friend didn't know the sister would get back together with her DH - so it would be a good thing to do. Think long term. My DH still remembers (30 years ago) the money his dad lent his daughter;s husband and the son in law never repaid it. My DH is still annoyed on his dad's behalf. ( His dad being long gone).

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what wisteriawoman said.

Also not a Muslim but imo the sister and her husband owe this money to the friend's husband and should pay it back.

i am a muslim......why didnt the woman who got married again get a new mahr of £500 to repay the money she owed.......if she is responsible. but more to the point the mahr doesnt need to be given back as long as their original marriage wasnt void.

Asalamu Alaykum,

'A'isha (Allah he pleased with her) reported: There came the wife of Rifa'a to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) and said: I was married to Rifa'a but he divorced me, making may divorce irrevocable. Afterwards I married Abd al-Rahman b. al-Zubair, but all he possesses is like the fringe of a garment (i. e. he is sexually weak). Thereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) smiled, and said: Do you wish to return to Rifa'a. (You) cannot (do it) until you have tasted his sweetness and he ('Abd al-Rahman) has tasted your sweetness

• to summarise a woman was divorced from Husband #1 then married #2 then wanted to divorce #2 and go back to #1 but was told not until you have 'tasted each others sweetness' ie consumated the marriage.

So from that, I think if a man and woman divorce by irrevocable divorce such as the khul or by 3 talaq (not the ignorant practice of 3 talaqs all said all at once btw but 3 talaqs as according the QURAN!)

Anyway, a woman has to remarry then get divorced before she can return to first husband.

HOWEVER we also have:

Narrated Ibn Mas?ud: Allah?s Messenger (may Allah?s blessings and peace be
upon him) cursed the man who made a woman lawful for her first husband and
the one for whom she was made lawful (i.e. the men involved in the Halala)
[Reported by Ahmad, an-Nasai, and at Tirmidhi; the latter declared it Saheeh]

So that makes an arrangement of a man marrying a woman to consumate it with her just so they can divorce ans she can go back to first husband also wrong.

So to summarise, the sister should pay back the money as it's not good to keep debts anyway! And she can't remarry her divorced husband unless she enters sincerely into another marriage and it doesn't work out for a reason OTHER than her wanting to go back to first husband...

That's why when we have marriage problems the advice is to appoint arbitrators from each side of the family to try to help work out the problems.

Allahu Alim (Allah knows best)

What jolina said.

Also sis hope you don't me saying but Mumsnet is not the best place to get Islamic fiqh rulings, try asking local scholars or ones that run q and a sessions such as on Islam channel sis.