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Experiences of wholeness but not necessarily healing

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Italiangreyhound · 16/04/2012 20:39

Hi, does anyone have any experiences of feeling they have been made whole but not necessarily 'healed', in the sense of feeling they have come through a difficult time but not necessarily got the 'healing' they had hoped for.

We discussed healing in our church service on Sunday night and I felt healing and wholeness were two topics that were linked.

Personally, I have just had the disappointment of our final IVF treatment not working. We have a wonderful daughter aged 7, who is so fab, and my husband and I had been trying to give her a sibling for about 6 and a half years.

I now feel able to stop the treatment and lay that aside. I would like to look into fostering and adoption at some stage, with my DH.

I kind of feel that God has helped to ease that huge desire to have another baby.

I wonder if there are people who have had a feeling of wholeness while not exactly being 'healed' in the traditional sense?

Many thanks in advance.

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AMumInScotland · 16/04/2012 21:04

Yes I think many more people achieve wholeness through prayer than achieve physical healing. Often what you need more is strength to cope with what is happening, or support to help you feel less alone in it, or what you describe - a change in your feelings towards a situation which hasn't actually changed. Healing is great when it happens, but it's better to ask God to help you with your situation in whatever form that takes, rather than saying "fix it"

Italiangreyhound · 16/04/2012 21:24

Very good point AMUmINScotland because those things you learn can be transfered to other things, you can trust God in new ways.

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FlamingoBingo · 16/04/2012 21:28

But you have healed if you are now at peace with the situation. That's where we are all trying to get to, after all. Once we're at peace with things as they are, then we no longer want whatever it was we wanted in the first place...or we do, but it no longer consumes us and becomes a 'problem'...just something that just is.

Italiangreyhound · 16/04/2012 23:24

That's true Flamingo.

I guess when it is a physical or medical thing, like having fertility problems, I do tend to think in terms of 'healing' meaning not having that problem, which is why I used the word 'wholeness'. Yet I agree your definition is valid too, of course.

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OutragedAtThePriceOfFreddos · 17/04/2012 08:33

I'm not sure I have experienced wholeness exactly, but I have experienced a feeling of being able to cope with things that I had previously thought would completely break me thanks to God.

madhairday · 17/04/2012 13:46

Like the others, I have experienced wholeness though being able to cope and carry on, and even sometimes through a great sense of peace and rest. I have a long term disease which I've cried out to God for healing for. Sometimes God has healed the symptoms so I can get through that day. But never the disease. It's a difficult one, but I've found myself so grateful for all God has given me and all the resources God has given me to keep going. And it's made me into who I am, able to help others with similar difficulties. I don't think we'll know the full picture this side of heaven, but I do think we can experience a certain measure of wholeness. And sometimes, physical healing too.

I'm so sorry about your experiences. It must have been so very hard for you. I'm glad you have got to this peaceful place,

madhairday · 17/04/2012 16:45

Was thinking of this man when thinking about wholeness and healing. He is amazing - worth watching right through.

OutragedAtThePriceOfFreddos · 17/04/2012 17:20

Wow. Thanks for sharing that link madhairday. You are right, he is amazing.

Italiangreyhound · 18/04/2012 00:04

madhairday thank you for your kind words. I am feeling very happy and positive about the plans to look into adoption or fostering. Very excited indeed. It was tough but it feel quite distant now.

Thank you for the link, I had seen a video about Nick before but had not realised he was a Christian. How marvellous.

God Bless you.

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