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Wiccans! Help needed ...

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Jux · 16/04/2012 09:30

DD is 12, and is Wiccan. She is also quite a disturbed child due to a large number of bereavements we suffered in a short space of time when she was younger (and between December and February we had 4 more).

She is searching desperately for a way through. I know very little about Wicca; I've read a couple of books which dd has passed my way.

We are in the south west. Does anyone know of anyone who could mentor dd? I don't necessarily mean face to face, over the net would be fine. I mean really, just give her a bit of advice when she's having a tough time, point her in the direction of trustworthy sites and so on.

She is vulnerable and impressionable, and I (we) need someone sensible, responsible.

Can anyone help? I would be so grateful. I am really out of my depth.

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RedMolly · 19/04/2012 16:12

Baby brains - not Morgause - meant Vivienne!

suburbophobe · 19/04/2012 16:48

There are some magazines around that deal with spiritual stuff, including paganism etc. They've always got interesting stuff in them. It would give your daughter an introduction to the spiritual arts.

Prediction

Spirit and Destiny

Soul and Spirit

Kindred Spirit

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Jux · 19/04/2012 17:46

Passing all these books/mag recommendations on. Thank you all.

I have Culpepper's Herbal in the kitchen; bought it years and years ago! DD has a look at it sometimes but has a couple of herbals she favors atm. I thought I was shoring Amazon up single-handedly (except for my brother), but it seems there are a few of us....

Vis a vis, my old hypno-chap, I think he saw a therapeutic value in doing it, but he saw it much more as something the patient did for themselves, and then what they did with it afterwards was their business. Now, he was actually a world renowned practitioner at the time (very long time ago) and was very very good.. The difficulty was that some of the others who worked in his clinic were not as good as he and took the attitude that "I can do anything, and what happens is your problem", so that people who should never be treated were (even with my rudimentary training I knew that treating people with depression or on psychotropic drugs should not be treated). Sometimes the results were pretty bad and quite dangerous.

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piratecat · 19/04/2012 17:58

hi Jux, i can't help much but I really feel your dd's pain. I have struggled with what i believe all my life, and have faced many bereavements in short spaces of time.

In hindsight i truly believe I am not one particular 'aspect', ie a Pagan or a Wiccan, but a formed spirit, who deserves to love myself. You do sound like a fantastic mum who is so open. My gosh this helps. Also your daughter's age will be making her ask questions, big ones, and I didn't get to know myself till i was 30.
For me joining a particular 'thing' wasn't what i wanted. I feel understanding of the natural word, our own angel spirits and love that is within us really helps with the path.
Perhaps your girl could combine lots of reading on Angels, Buddism, Paganism. what i mean is it may help her having a realy broad base to check in with, and she will find that all the universe wants for us is to be happy, and not feel afraid to ask for happiness.

I have always found a visit to Glastonbury beneficial. Does she like crystals? I love that feeling when you get drawn to a particular colour, buy it, take it home then read up that it was exactly what you were looking for!!!

Seeing things magically is so soothing. xxx hth

piratecat · 19/04/2012 18:00

and i have never forgotten a book i have, well its a title.

'If you meet Buddha on the Road, shoot him' lol.

ANYONE who proclaims they are this or that, or has the slightest self adoration in what they do healing wise, has a shed loaf work to do on themselves, before they should go anywhere near someone else.

humiilty is key Id say!

piratecat · 19/04/2012 18:00

loaf?? --load!!

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Jux · 19/04/2012 22:35

Pirate at, yes my mind is so open my brains fell out! Boom boom

Humility - there's another parallel with Catholicism!

MooBaaWoof, I shall look at that book. I think dd is making a list. Oh, this is going to be expensive!

RedMolly, are you sure about the rain? DH won't want to do Glastonbury or Avebury. Waaagh!

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RedMolly · 19/04/2012 22:40

Fraid so. Showers at best. Are you too far away to try the witchcraft museum? It does at least have a roof! Mind you - Boscastle when wet - you may need a boat...

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Jux · 19/04/2012 23:33

About twice as far as Glastonbury, if not a bit more, and slower roads. Not much hope of it now. Summer though; we often go camping in north Devon, not too far.

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piratecat · 20/04/2012 09:38

Jux i am sure we have discussed this before, are you in Devon?

I in southern most Devon.

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Jux · 20/04/2012 10:08

I think you're right, piratecat. I'm in East Devon, not that far from you.

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RedMolly · 20/04/2012 21:58

Hi Jux - are you still going to try Glastonbury or Avebury this weekend? Looks like it might actually be sunny inbetween the showers (i'm changing my name to Michael Fish!). Plenty of shops and cafes to shelter in anyway if you go to Glasto.

Don't know how much you've discussed from here with your daughter beyond the book and website recommendations, but I really hope it has been beneficial for you both. I'm sure quite a few folk on here would like to know how you get on.

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Jux · 21/04/2012 00:42

No idea, Molly. When I mentioned it to dh this morning his reaction was as if we'd never spoken of it! He finally conceded that we'd talked of it last week but he had no idea that there was any intention of going now, as we hadn't gone last week. We didn't go last week because the workmen were here, dh was gigging on Saturday night, so he said we would go this week

Then he said the weather would be awful and he'd rather wait until it's better. (He spent several hours on the beach yesterday, despite the awful weather!)

DD wants to go; I want to go. For once dh is not working on a Saturday or Sunday so he doesn't need to sleep all afternoon before he meets his public, so I think I'm going to push gently for it. I did suggest that if the weather was awful we could go to Boscastle, instead, but there's not a hope in hell of that. We'll go there when we go camping in the summer.

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Jux · 21/04/2012 00:43

Piratecat, I can't find the old thread. Was I rude?

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Krumbum · 21/04/2012 03:11

When I was 12 me and my friends became wiccans up until we were about 16. It bonded us by being in our coven am having secrets that No one else understood. We also felt very powerful. I think it was a positive thing which we all grew out of but it is nice to be spiritual and can bring people a lot of comfort. We had lots of books from the pagan shops. There are magic books specifically for teens. Also Fiona hornes book are nice, every thing is very positive in them, helping you improve your life with wicca and written in a friendly way.

piratecat · 21/04/2012 09:46

Jux what do you mean were you rude!! i am not aware that you were at all.

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Jux · 21/04/2012 11:39

Oh good. it's just a bit of paranoia left over from childhood, that I'll do or say something rude and it'll come back and bite me!

Krumbum, that's good to know. Mum, even though she was staunchly Catholic, always said that she thought dd having faith at all was more important than what she had faith in. We'll look out for those Fiona Hornes books too. (Amazon, you're going to have to get a lorry just for me!)

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Jux · 23/04/2012 09:17

Well, despite all dh's maneouvrings, we did get there!

We went to The Goddess and the Green Man first, where we bought some of the books recomm here. It was busy, being Saturday, so not much time to chat to the woman there, but dd did have a tiny chat and we had a small josh about being married to musicians. I liked her.

Then we spent a fair time wandering trying to find the Temple, but when we did, dd found it a bit overwhelming and alien - it wasn't what she expected (not sure what she did expect) so we left quite quickly. Again, it was very busy.

We went to Lilith, but when dd saw they had Demon Tins (?) she wanted to go.

We should have gone to the tor, but dh, who had spent most of the time having a pint, wanted to look at charity shops, so we did that, and then we went home.

DD has been quiet about it since. I asked her what she thought about Glastonbury, and she said something along the lines of it being a bit commercialised. I'm sure she'd feel differently if we'd got to the tor, but hey. Another time.

The good thing is, that it didn't take anything like as long to get there as dh expected, and the traffic wasn't bad, and the only time we got lost was when dh refused to turn off because he wanted to go to a particular petrol station (which he couldn't find!); so, anyway, there's a chance that next time he has a gigless weekend we may go back. The problem with dh is that everything has to be perfect (from weather to the state of the economy) for him to consider going anywhere.

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MooBaaWoofCheep · 23/04/2012 10:34

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MaresyDotes · 23/04/2012 11:18

OP, I have a lovely book called The Family Wicca Book by Ashleen O'Gaea, link, it's aimed at Wiccan parents who want to introduce their children to Wicca, but it is full of good advice which I think might help.

If you'd like it, I am happy to send it to you - PM me.

RedMolly · 23/04/2012 15:10

I'm glad she got to go, and sorry it wasn't what she hoped it would be. I don't want to denigrate Glastonbury because it is important to a lot of folk and I respect that, but it is hard not to be cynical about the way it has developed.

I honestly think that if you want to develop a relationship with the goddess and god you need to go within through meditation (and you can do that anywhere) or look outside to the natural world.

Now you've said you are in East Devon I had another thought. Do you know about the Axminster Awareness Centre? I haven't been there in quite a few years but have been on various courses that they run. They offer all kinds of healing at the centre and I woud definitely recommend having a look at their website and see what you think.

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Jux · 23/04/2012 17:35

Ah, you have rung a bell with me, Molly! I think that dh used to teach the child of someone who worked there. It was about 5 years ago, which is why I'd forgotten about it. DD goes through Axminster to get to school. Will investigate further.... Thanks.

MaresyDotes, I thought I'd written a post saying thank you for your kind offer. I'm a bit loth to take up your offer as dh and I are not Wiccans, or of any religion at all. While I'm fine with supporting her beliefs - even easing her way to an extent - I don't want to try to interpret the path for her or give her any form of instruction, iyswim.

MooBaa, I agree with you completely.

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Grockle · 28/04/2012 00:21

What a lovely thread. I'm not Wiccan but loosely Pagan. I like Avebury and find something very peaceful about West Kennet Longbarrow, but they are a bit far from you and I know that Devon has lots of other places to visit. For me, just being outside, on the beach or in the woods is enough to give me a little peace and energy.

Your DD is lucky to have such a supportive family.

RedMolly · 01/06/2012 16:56

Hi Jux

Wondered how your dd (and you) are getting on now? Hope some of the advice was of help. Has it given her a clearer direction at all?

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