This is so strange and I am supposed to do something but what?

[Cortina]

Ok, brief background, I've had a recurring dream about a house and its gardens where I spent lots of time as a child. This has lasted for more than 30 years. Promise
I am not a nutter :) and not one given to imaginative flights of fancy either strangely enough.

I've studied the history of the house (there isn't very much) and I think I see it in dreams in its Edwardian and Victorian heyday. Parlour maids and the general running of the house that sort of thing. I studied the history of the house only after having these dreams for so long.

Fast forward to now and I see it under threat from developers, the now overgrown gardens being JCBed into oblivion that sort of thing.

Sometimes I see it and its grounds far back in time and others far into the future too.

I seem to be shown symbols of some kind, strange objects. Last night a 'Bunce' a sort of primitive building whatever that might have been (it tied in with a children's author in the dream for some reason) and a celtic cross of sorts, but smaller and copper.

I saw a Victorian graveyard, lots of black marble gravestones with elaborate flourishes. I was shown them by a man, an owner of the house but not one I've read up on. He told me he didn't know what to do with all of the house and land during his lifetime.

He said I was receiving, via dreams, all of the 'magic' and spirituality of the house that he had in his lifetime. All his passion, and to some extent sadness, I think was being directed to me he said. He had a dog with him. It's the first time I've directly dreamt of the 'man who owns the house'.

Graves in the gardens, usually Victorian or set into the floors of the house under the rugs are a common theme.

It felt last night like I was being given signs that lead to something? A code to break?

I dream often of something connected to children somehow that's buried in the grounds.

Any pointers? Thanks and promise I am sane, well relatively :)

Wow, this is really interesting.

The most obvious thing would be for you to ask the man for answers next time you dream. It is possible to will yourself to do this even when you are asleep.

How do you feel now? Do you feel like you are taking on the sadness? Are you familiar with grounding and protecting? What were your experiences like there as a child? What does the 'magic' of the house mean? Why is it sad and why you? What are you supposed to do with the sadness? Are you beng asked to resolve something?

Are you aware that the house is actually being demolished or is this in your dream also? Can you find out what is happening to the house now, especially as there seems to be a sense of urgency?

Graves suggest something buried - a secret of some kind or something that people want to forget - but not necessarily death. Loss maybe, although it could be death. A small celtic cross - if it has one long arm then it is still a Celtic cross whatever its size but if it has four short arms then it is a sun cross and you can find the symbolism of this through google.

I'm assuming you keep a journal about all of this?

There are other routes you could try to get more information. The first would be to consult a medium - not sure I would if I were you, not least because it seems that you are picking stuff up anyway. The second woud be to try past life regression in case this has a connection but the trouble with that is auto-suggestion can interfere with its reliability.

The man that you've seen - you say he's not an owner that you have researched but have you identified him? And the children's author?

I've just googled 'bunce', have you? Is there a slave trade connection with the property?

Or there are several developers and people otherwise connected with property in the UK now with the name 'Bunce'.

And of course it is slang for money.

(ok, I'm off now, honestly)

Cortina When you say you spent lots of time there when you were a child, why was that? and are you near to the house now?

I'd suspect this is simply your subconscious working overtime. For many years I had recurring dreams of landscapes and could never work out why I was having them or where they were, until I visited a part of the world I'd spent some time in as a child. Then it all clicked into place.

Your ?dream memories? of the house will have been coloured by what you knew about it as a child. As a child you may have played games of make-believe pretending you were living in the house in previous ages, or perhaps you overhead adults talking about its past and this information became stored in your subconscious. All such information will then re?emerge into your later dreams about the place. Possibly the house has become muddled up in your subconscious with other houses you've visited or descriptions that you've read in novels or seen in films.

Your studies will have provided more information to add further verisimilitude to your dreams about the history of the building. All these facts/experiences then become muddled up in your dreams and appear to presage something.

I wouldn't worry about it meaning anything. If you have had, or are undergoing, some emotional problems there is the possibility that your dreams are taking you back to somewhere you loved as a child and in these dreams you see this loved place under threat. The threat to this "dream" house could be your subconscious reflecting the anxiety/problem that was/is happening in your real life.

Just marking place on this thread too... to enlighten discussion on the other one.

I am interested that breton feels they are memories

Thanks, Breton. That's all possible. As a child I think I thought it had always been as it was, a conversion, but I did love roaming freely in the grounds.

Some of my dreams just have the odd reference from the house in them, others are epic dreams with so much going on in them, like the dream about the owner trying to give me a message.

Just to add this: I dreamt I was shown a movie of the house and was shown what had stood on the land from the dawn of time to end of days. This movie also featured my family at key points in their lives, like snapshots from a family album.

I also dream of a monumental arch on a hill nearby with villagers going through it in Edwardian/Victorian times.

I guess this could be what you say Breton, lumping all the 'house' references together. Doesn't feel like it somehow though, seems specifically connected to the house.

Spritmum, you've got me thinking now.

I was sad as a child for various reasons but not at the house, ever. The house feels like it's 'alive', if that doesn't sound too bonkers, and I feel as if there are things buried there, quite literally. There is supposed to be battle debris from long ago buried on the site somewhere. I think, from what I've read only very recently, it's had a lot of occupants and was once a school for boys in the 19th Century.

It's children I feel and sense there, when I've visited in real life. There was a boy who grew up there alone later in the 19th Century, his siblings died young. I imagine he must have roamed around, much as I did at the same age and enjoyed the same trees to climb and streams to dam and dens to build. Although I had siblings I was usually solitary.

Does sound like a sun cross from what you said. There are other symbols, a monumental arch on the outskirts of the village with a bell, I think, but linked to the house. A crypt with children's toys, and strangely unclaimed children's prizes there. The 'satanic arc' was definitely called this in my dream, when I removed it from the ground there was an ominous rumble of thunder as the 'Gods' slowly caught on that it was in my power. But was it evil? Not exactly. I shown as specific spot in the garden where this arc was buried, I could take a trowel there tomorrow! :)

I dream of overgrown follies deep in the woods that I've never found in real life but could possibly be there.

I also know that the house was allowed to fall into a terrible state of decay around 1900 only to be restored again and this seemed to happen periodically. Again only recently.

Grounding and protecting?

No threat to it being demolished as far as I know although the land must be valuable so it might be under threat in the future. A bit like the house in Tom's Midnight Garden, I think, in many ways where in the future the grounds have been sold off etc.

I am now wondering if the man with the dog could be the boy grown up? I think his son may still be alive so I could try to get in touch, if he doesn't think I am completely insane :).

Hope that answers some of the questions. I wondered about past life regression. Interesting that you mention it, I once had a palm reading for a laugh in Eastern Europe. The lady told me to never, ever, however tempted I might be to have past life regression. It's always made me more curious than I might be otherwise.

I x posted this earlier. Will add below, before I did just wanted to say Spiritmum that the kid's author is a book my son is reading so I think unconnected:

I kept a diary of my dreams in 1999/2000 and didn't continue it. Strangely enough I have dreamt about and named DS's school in my journal (a long time before DP was on the scene let alone DS)- it's an unusual name for a school and hundreds of miles away from where I lived at the time, not in my subconscious at all. This is what I wrote about it at the time: I met a girl who looked like me who was studying for an MBA at 'DS's school' (I name it here).

Rather bizarrely just seen that I dreamt in 2000 my hairdresser would open his own shop in Pont St area, London and relocate. He did last year. Coincidence I am sure.

Some dreams in this period where the house features. Let's call it Pike Lodge for easy reference:

17.01.00
Driving through a wheat field and Jane (work colleague) was there, I told her I was going to forcefully punch her in the face. She had a loose front tooth. Then Pike Lodge appeared and my family in a flat within it. The car then took a bend too fast and veered off into the wheat field.

29.1.00
I was with Richard (boyfriend at the time) in some kind of organised holiday resort or exhibition centre. Richard had previously won some kind of silver bar commemorative coin and used it to get into the centre which I felt was very close to the Pike Lodge and gardens, even though it actually wasn't.

Richard had been balancing a beautiful girl on his knee.Then I see wrapped presents on a floor.

16.2.00

A man in a pink home knitted jumper on the way to Pike Lodge. I walk some of the way to Pike Lodge to find it has been turned into some horrid Travel Lodge bland 60s type pre-fab building. A abomination in a beauty spot. An old shed is now in the place were in real life a beautiful sunken garden stands. I leave some clothes behind somewhere important and buy some attractive clothes.

Lots of coins and metal objects seem to feature etc. These are all dreams that just have elements of Pike Lodge I get a few real epics thought, like the other night.

I also dream about the house in the 1940s quite specifically. Usually in the early morning there is dew on the grass. The house is smaller and more of a middle class home, less grand. It's empty but occupied by the ATS or something like that.

Hi, Cortina,

To some extent I agree with Breton in that this could all be coming from within you. The question is, do you want to understand the symbolism or do you want just to let it drop? Also it's undeniable in my experience that what happens in a place has an impact on how it feels and how we experience it. Maybe you do have an energetic connection to this house. Do you think you would feel more at peace if you understood your dreams and maybe they ended? You've been having these dreams for years, right?

Interestingly I thought of Tom's Midnight Garden when I read your post (no book makes me howl more than that one incidentally). I don't think the world works in the way we think it does. That is, I don't think time works in the linear fashion that we think it does, and I don't believe we are separate from each other like we think we are. I do believe in some kind of colective consiousness, amongst groups and for humanity and creation as a whole.

Okay, grounding and protecting. This is a technique that keeps you safe whenever you start to have this kinds of experiences - you are protecting your psyche or your energy and you don't need to believe in something outside of yourself to see the value in that.

To begin with, sit or lie, close your eyes and breathe. Picture roots going down into the earth, anchoring you into the safety of the ground. Feel how strong and stable you are. Once you have got your roots grounding you, imagine yourself surrounded by a bubble or cloak of white light (or branches made of white light that sweep to the foor, if you prefer). With practise you can do this in an instant whenever you are out and about and feel under threat, and get used to walking around whilst feeling grounded and protected. You can even make your bubble bigger or smaller, or dissolve or harden its edges. It might be something that helps if your dreams ever leave you feeling uneasy - you can do it before going to sleep.

Past life regression - hmm. The problem with it is that you can never be certain from where it comes - you? Something you've read? The person leading the regression? It's only ever been suggested to me by people who are on the side of the angels (literally) but I've never gone for it - I often have dreams in which I experience emotions that stay with me for days and I think PLR might cause me to feel very unsettled for some time. So, it has to be your call - it can be useful in getting to the key to why we are like we are (and again I have no problem with the idea it is subconscious rather than a real past life) but go with caution and get recommendations.

I'm not psychic (thank goodness!) but the one thing I can offer by way of help is an angel card reading. I can ask the angels for guidance, if you wish. (Btw if you are sceptical about that - which I understand perfectly - let me say again that I have no problem with the idea that the answers I get come from the subconsious or collective conscious, although that is not my belief - all I know is that often I get something through the cards that helps.)

Cortina,
There is a lot of energy with this house and yourself (just stating the obvious here, but I also mean energetically).

I'd like to offer you my perspective on what is going on, and I haven't tuned into your energy or anything like that to gain more information, but I can certainly do that at your request. Like spritmum I also speak to and work with angels.
When we dream our soul essence goes travelling to other dimensions and we can see what can be perceived as the past or the future. It seems to be that you might be accessing some 'memories' or occurences of the house, but for what reason? This can be the most puzzling part. When you are dreaming are you aware of what age you are in the dream, or if you are flying around perhaps?
Before you go to sleep tonight why not ask your angels (mentally in your head) to give you an insight as to why you are travelling to this place in your sleep?

Thanks.

I've had very vivid dreams where I've 'travelled' if that makes sense. I had one where I actually decided to eat some soil so I could tell myself whether I was awake or asleep, does that make sense? A bit like pinching yourself to see if you are dreaming.

No I am not aware how old I am or if I am flying around etc. It seems like I am an observer and not actually present most of the time. Like I am being 'shown' things.
Either literally as when I was shown a movie about this house an its time or just observing from a safe distance.

Sometimes I am a visitor to the house, but it's usually at a safe distance.

The idea of someone tuning in and helping me, frightens me, although I am grateful for someone offering help. There is something frightening here you see.

Is does feel like I am seeing someone's memories and
I am supposed to do something with them? The house feels very important and underestimated, it is a key, the key, but to what?

Sorry if that sounds deep but that feels like it is the message.

Cortina, the grounding and protecting technique will help you to stop feeling frightened.

There is nothing to fear with angels. They come from a place of goodness and can offer you protection. Any reading that I do would be solely about you, what to do to bring about resolution and peace of mind. I wouldn't even dream of trying to work out what is going on with the house itself, that is work for someone far more experienced than I.

If you did want to consult someone I can recommend Cassandra Eason for her integrity and capability.

Sometimes this past life stuff is magnetising to us, but for no other reason that the familiarity it has from the other life.

I had a real attraction, almost an obsession for a while, about a stately home near me, where I am convinced I worked as a gardener a few hundred years ago As soon as I really 'felt' the physical sensation of the gradener and who he was and got snippets about his life, the obsession faded to a mild attraction and now I am fine, honest

Interesting, Nemo. Do you mean you had to appease this 'past life' gardener by discovering who he was so you could rest easy in your current life? (If you know what I mean)? :)

Ah, I posted on the other thread then found this one! So ok, I have a bit more background. i'm going to mull all this over, its fascinating.

Grateful for your feedback, thanks.

yes pretty much.

Every time we go there now I tut and say 'this place has gone to ruin' and try to hook my thumbs into braces that aren't there! Then I get a mad urge for steak and kidney pie (am vegetarian!)

But remember 'he' is me - so it was more accepting him into who I am now.

And I now grow huuuuge carrots in my garden...

:) @ Nemofish

You don't look like Sean Bean do you? :)

Well I have his nose, for sure

Can't sleep so back to remark on latest strange dream about the house and garden.

This time it was set in the future and the bottom half of the garden had been closed off as a nursery or pre-school had been established there. This was in the early stages of being set up. A large ornamental pond, that exists currently, had been altered and taped up. It was considered a health and safety issue so was going to be removed, filled in or permanently altered.

The garden had been somewhat divided up.

A tower had been built in a wall that ran parallel to the house, which I think had been demolished. A flat (?) had been built inside this tower. The tower wasn't high and the flat seemed cramped.

There is currently the remains of a rose garden in the woods and this had become a main road/dual carriageway, there were still a few remnants of the old garden and stray rose petals on the concrete footbridge over the dual carriageway.

It feels like this garden and house is connected with my soul and the future of the world. When it crumbles or changes too much so will I and/or the much wider world.

All very strange :)

Just to add the wall and tower/flat within the wall were gaudy and white stucco fronted. Not attractive and in poor taste.

Cortina; if these dreams trouble you you may find the Jungian approach useful.

I would suggest that you read

The Wikipedia entry on Jung,

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Jung

And if anything rings a bell

then see if you can find "The essential Jung" edited by Antony Storr.

If (but only if) these dreams alarm and unsettle you a Jungian analyst might be able to help but read up Jung first, so that you are at ease with what they do.

Avoid past life regression; I can tell from your postings that you would find it most unhelpful, and it could have nasty side effects for you. I am thinking of the Jungian concept of "Psychic Inflation" which you might be at risk off.