Fleas, ticks and lungworm

[dinamum]

Sorry if you are all itching now but I am really confused.

I know I have to worm my dogs and give flea treatment and preventation for lung worm but all the products seem to conflict. So is this ok for my dogs (they can not have advocate as they had a reaction to it)

Panacur each month for all worms and lungworm
Then also each month frontline for fleas and ticks?

I am not sure if this is covering all bases my vet seems very unsure after saying I should not use advocate anymore

I'm guessing you are in an area with a high incidence of lungworm such as southern Ireland. You can check the incidence of lungworm in your area on the bayer website.
For your fleas and ticks you can either use Advantix or frontline. Then for your worms and lungworms you can use Panacur (does not quite do all the worms), Milbemax or drontal.
Whilst you can worm and flea\tick at the same time I recommend

Week 1 flea\tick
Week 3 worm
Week 5 flea\tick
Week 7 worm

Just my personal preference as I don't like to do it all at once.

I use frontline for fleas/tics etc and Milbemax for worms including lungworm.

Frontline I do every 2 months and milbemax every 3 months. Hope that helps.

Frontline is only active for tick for 4 weeks so in the winter for flea control every 8 weeks is fine, but in the summer to kill the ticks (remember it doesn't stop them attaching, but does kill them within 48 hours) you need to use it every 4 weeks.
Forgot Practic is the other product you can use.

Why do you need prevention for lungworm? Are you not in UK?

I use Frontline as much as once a month - for ticks in the summer, then once every 2 or three months in the autumn/winter against fleas (ticks less prevelant). I use drontal wormer every 3 months for whatever worms. When we were travelling through Northern Europe it was the same, although we did have some extra nasty tick killer which came in the form of a collar. I thought lungworm was something animals could get in Southern Europe.

If you are not in UK the DEFRA website might help?

does lung worm not cause na problem in the uk, we have an awful lot of slugs around our house and I worry myself sick about lung worm.

We are in the south of England and have a mega problem with lungworm with our vet seeing new cases every week.

However my dogs cannot have milbemax or advocate due to one ingredient that seems to causes a reaction in some collies. (Having had one dog spend 2 days in the vet due to the reaction this is not an option)

So if I giving panacur and frontline which worms are not be treated?

Am I making this harder than it really is

What does your vet reccomend?

I would go with a frontline and drontal combination then.
Certain areas of the southern Uk are lungworm hotspots and at the rate it's travelling the whole of the UK will be affected in the next 5 years or so. Southern Europe are heartworm hotspots.

He doesn't that is the problem! He just said that I must on no account use the milbemax and advocate. I asked about a regime and he said it was difficult and made suggestions like using panacur but did say I was not covered for everything and then got called away to an emergency.

Also after he saw my dog that had a reaction he said "oh yes some collies can react to it, some have even died after milbemax" so I am losing faith a little bit and am looking to change vets but in the meantime want my boys protected.

It does seem as lungworms are a relatively new problem here there is no one fix to prevention

leanto thank you so much that has made things much clearer. The lungworms are a problem I will go back to my vet armed with more knowledge and discuss things again. Thanks a lot

leanto you've made me laugh.

We were just discussing in work today how it would be great if someone could invent a spot-on which treats all internal parasites and fleas, is as effective as Advantix against ticks (which are our big problem here) but doesn't kill cats. Come on, Bayer

I've had a client move up here from the South coast of England and she wanted Advocate for her dogs, which we don't hold in stock. She was totally perplexed at my suggestion that it wouldn't be adequate here, and my emphasis on tick prevention. And amazed that we don't see sarcoptes every day!

Have to say I'm a bit worried we're going to start seeing lungworm cases, not really sure whether we should be advising clients to add in Panacur too. Gah.

Ok been back to the vet and have decided (I think!)

to alternate between drontal and panacur (not that happy about the 7 days of treatment but I guess that is preferable to a full blown case of lungworm)

Then frontline/advantix alternating different week to the wormer.

Another bugger I have just realised is that the dogs that can tolerate advocate are having to go on above regime in case the dog that reacts licks them.

I hope it all works and this is the best thing to do or maybe I should consider moving to a colder climate! SO bloodytired where are you if you don't have lungworm?