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so many crossed breeds available

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kid · 19/06/2010 20:20

I have never noticed it before, well I have never spent so long looking at puppies. There are all sorts available and I just don't understand why all these breeds are being mixed.

I do know people are trying to get the best of both breeds in one dog, but you could also get the worst of both breeds.
Plus, you don't really know what the dog will be like size wise.

Why not just stick to all the beautiful breeds that are already available? I just don't get it.

I even saw a great dane and staff x, thats just crazy! I figured you would get a giant staff from that mix.

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SecretSquirrel193 · 19/06/2010 22:38

Money. People charge more (and people pay more) for cross breeds with idiot names. Why be one of several people with a poodle, when you can be one of a elite few with a and pay twice the price of said poodle?

Ridiculous. And 90% of the crossbreeds are unhealth tested using the tests designed to produce health puppies, cause after all "cross breeds are healthy".. Makes me sick!!!

pinkmagic1 · 19/06/2010 22:42

Just wondering how the great dane and staff got it on!

misdee · 19/06/2010 22:43

i didnt pay over the odds for my labradoodles. tbh we wanted dogs, labradoodles have been billed as 'allergy friendly dogs' which obviously appeals to us, but as F2's their coats arent determinable, and we can already see huge differences between our 2 pups. if they had been back-crossed with a poddle, rather than doodle+doodle then they would be 3/4poodle, 1/4 lab and more wooly/non shedding coat iyswim. and then the price would be mega high i expect.

but for a cross-breed, vaccinated, from a loving home, with the qualities of both parent dogs which we loved (as owner owns both mum and dad dog), then we feel we got a fair price for 2 fab dogs.

kid · 19/06/2010 22:44

Well when i got my last puppy, we fell in love with him. He was sold to us as a 'sprocker' (springer x cocker)

Little did we know, he had a bad heart that the vet didn't detect on 3 separate occassions. It was only when he died under general aneasthetic that it became apparent there was a problem. But it was too late then and our hearts were broken.

This time, I am determined to track down a healthy puppy whos parents have been DNA tested.
I am getting a bit impatient though as its taking ages to track one down. But, I don't want to go through the loss of a young dog again, I couldn't take it happening again.

How comes a 'cockerpoo' is a recognised breed? I often see it listed as a breed but none of the other mixes.

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misdee · 19/06/2010 22:45

crossbreeds like labradoodles and cockerpoo's arent KC recongised are they?

kid · 19/06/2010 23:09

They aren't listed on KC website, but on some of the sites I have been searching where you select the breed you want, they are an option on there. Not sure about a labradoodle but have definitely seen a cockerpoo.
No sign of sprockers but I don't want one anyway, couldn't risk it even though the odds of something being wrong are very low, the risk is still there in my mind.

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WynkenBlynkenandNod · 20/06/2010 03:06

Cockapoos have been around in the US since the 1950s which I think is why you see them sometimes listed as a breed. Don't blame you for holding out on the testing Kid. Our Labradoodle came from hip and eye scored parents. Her Dad could open doors and she came from an accidental litter as a result. There was a question over who the Dad was so the breeder had the Pups DNA tested. We got to see her with both parents and her grandmother.

Despite all the tests poor thing has had problems with a chronic cough, which fingers crossed has just been cracked following an endoscopy.

Thought of you yesterday Kid. We're staying with friends and one of their friend's springer has just had 11 pups. I suspect they aren't health tested but will ask and if they are I'll let you know.

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nooka · 20/06/2010 06:43

It's a marketing fad. I think that they are sold on false grounds too, or at least people are given false assurances. There have been a few people here that think Labradoodles are always non shedding for example, and you often here the "best of both breeds" line, when it is just as likely that the pup will have the worst characteristics of both breeds.

I suspect that getting a puppy is not that dissimilar to having a baby, to a large extent you just have to take your chances and hope that all will be well.

We're not even sure what mix our pup is. When we got him the rescue said that his mother was probably an American Water Spaniel, but the photos we saw don't really match the breed description. They thought his father might have had some terrier, or maybe Rottie, or possibly Husky! He seems to have grown up into a rather small yellow lab.

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Pollyanna · 20/06/2010 06:57

Kid really sorry about your puppy. We are planning to get one and are just starting to look into all of the checks that you need to do before you get a puppy. but even then I suppose you don't know everything.

cossbreeds are a fad I agree - and they are soo expensive. We have narrowed down our search to a cocker or a cockapoo - they are very sweet though.

I know 2 people with labradoodles though and they are both very happy with their dogs.

careergirl · 20/06/2010 09:21

time was they were known as x breeds or mongrels!!

jonicomelately · 20/06/2010 09:44

We have a labradoodle simply because we wanted a lab but DH is allergic to them. He has no problems with our dog, she hardly sheds and is a lovely well mannered dog. We didn't pay that much, certainly not double what we'd have paid for a poodle. Having said that there are some weird mixes out there at the moment and I don't especially like that trend.

elmofan · 20/06/2010 09:47

kid try get a pup that comes with a full health check certificate , thats what we got with our pup last week (a springer), My vet has also told me heart murmurs are common in spaniels . I was also baffled as too how many new breeds of dogs are available now .
Good luck with the puppy hunting

Lizcat · 20/06/2010 10:23

Cockerpoos were first recorded in an article in The Times newspaper in 1851 as being an excellent working cross having the benefits of the English working Cocker and the French working Toy poodle. Both breeds can suffer from PRA and ideally both parents should have had the Optigen genetic test to show they are homozygous unaffecteds.
Hybrid vigour is a well documented and this accounts that mixing two different breeds be they dogs, cows or sheep gives a combination that is generally superior to the sum of the parts.
I am a vet who is waiting for a cockapoo. I have done my bit had the crazy rescue dog who broke my heart and eventually turned nasty and bit my DH unprovoked after being in our family for 4 years. Off all the combinations and purebreds I see come through my door the cockapoo fits my needs perfectly.

kid · 20/06/2010 11:00

WynkenBlynkenandNod - please do check if the dogs are health checked, I'll cross my fingers and wait patiently!

Dh is willing to travel further than
my 50 mile radius, yipee, that will widen
my search

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WynkenBlynkenandNod · 20/06/2010 19:41

I asked my friend if she knew whether there had been any health checks and she said she would have thought so. It was a bit manic over the weekend with children and DH's having father's day stuff so I'll text her this week and see if I can get any further info.

At this point I don't know what colour they are, just that they have only just arrived and there are 11. They are close to the Cheddar/axbridge area though so it would be a trek for you. I'll see what else I can find out.

WynkenBlynkenandNod · 20/06/2010 19:46

Sorry, I googled the lady's name and have found a hit about the pups in their local paper. My friend has it wrong, they haven't just been born, they were born at the beginning of May. I think she meant they've just been advertised so timing all wrong, apologies.

kid · 20/06/2010 20:17

No worries, thank you for taking the time to find out.

As I am spending half my life looking for a puppy, I have listed a wanted ad on one of the many websites and today I got a response. But, I am suspicious of everyone!

Tell me what you think...
This person has a litter just been born, owns both mum and dad and the litter will be ready for their new homes in August.
I googled the name and phone number and came up with another litter. This litter are 6 weeks old and only 2 females left. They were listed today so its not like it is an old ad.

I have text the person to find out where they are (just need to check routeplanner to see how long it would take us to get there) but I also want to know what this other litter is about. How many dogs does she actually have and if the parents are health checked.

She didn't mention having 2 litters available, just the ones that are available from August. Then again, why would she mention having that litter now as I am not interested in getting a puppy straight away.
I am going to ask if the dogs are health checked but I have a feeling they are a long way from me.

I got all excited when I got the email from her, but it looks like its back to the square one again. Nevermind, that special puppy is out there somewhere, just wish he would make himself known to me!

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