Male neutered Siamese spraying in house

[siamesecatwoman]

I have a 8wk DD and two siameses - one male - Monty - one female, both 'done' and both 4yrs old. They both go out, and sleep together locked away at night. They get on well and play chase but dont show agression to each other. Before DD arrived I worked long hours but they would spend the evenings curled up on my lap.

My problem is - the male siamese has always sprayed occasionally indoors - I can normally identify it with a fight with a neighbours cat. Now he is spraying in every room practically daily. Not on DD's things but on the skirting, and prominant corners of furniture etc. He is always calling to me and I dont have time or enough hands to stroke him but I still have him on my lap in the evening if he wants to, and feed him the same and try my hardest to give him attention. TBH he probably gets more than before as Im at home 24/7 now.

Its getting quite stressful for me. I have seen lots of neighbourhood cats around recently but they were probably around before when i was at work and didnt see them..(DH has bought a water pistol supersoaker to 'get' them when they stray onto Monty's turf )

We have bought Feliway for upstairs and downstairs but it appears to have no benefit at all. Has anyone got any similar experiences with a Siamese? Any tips for curing this?

no idea, siamese, sorry, but bumping for you

We had a male cat that was a bugger for this and rather bizarrely restricting his teritory stopped it completely. We banned him from upstairs and he behaved... anytime we relented and let him back up he sprayed (or worse)

i currently have three male cats and as long as the alpha male knows i'm boss he won't spray, the other two males and the two females fall in line with him.

Hopefully another siamese owner will be along shortly to advise as i only have laid back Maine coons so im a bit ignorant to the eccentricaties (sp.?)of the temprement, but im a vet nurse so i have met a few

but.. they are pretty sensative and intelligent cats - as im sure you are aware .

if your boy has always sprayed in response to a fight outdoors i would suggest he is a sensative chap anyways. so the arrival of your DD has rocked his world! especially if he was your "baby" more then the girl. the feliway is a good start but it can take a while to make a difference especially if you use the plug ins.

it may help to examine the positioning of your litter trays and water / food bowls and sleeping areas. if any of these "resources" are near areas that the baby spends a lot of time that could be causing a problem. could you move them to a more quiet area of the house?

or you could try Valerien (dorwest herbs) you can put it in the drinking water or on their bedding. to give him a chilled out place to sleep ( i find this very effective)

if all else fails, maybe Zylkene would be an option, its avalible from your vet and acts to chill them out in stressful situations (works very well) its a nautral product - based on milk protien. might be worth a chat with your vet.

there was a recent article in the veterinary press about the stress and upset that pets feel when their beloved owners are at home all day but dont have time to spend with them - based on people working from home due the the recession but i would think it fits your situation too.

my guess would be that he feels a bit pushed out by your DD, and you will just have to ride it out until you get a bit of evening back and he can assume the position on your lap once more and use anything that will work to help him in the mean time.

good luck with it.xx

i don't know siamese cats but i do have a friend who had to eventually ban her two cats from indoor once her son arrived - they sprayed everywhere and despite neutering she couldn't get them to stop. They now live outside, with a warm shed to live in. I seem to remember she built a tunnel to the house or something so that they could sleep in the kitchen, but that was it for their house being their home .
I'm sure you CAN sort this out, it doesn't sound half as bad as her problem was, and siamese are much more intelligent than her rescue mongrels but I would definitely get on this asap and try and sort it.
IMHO as long as they know you are the boss, pets do cope with their new role in the hierarchy - my v intelligent Collie dog accepted DD2 much better than she did DD1.
Have you spoken to your vet about it?

Bump for daytime cat lovers

siamese felt bad last night that my post was too negative...sorry if you felt like that. I really hope this resolves for you soon - and that someone proper comes on and gives you good advice!!

dont worry MummyElk! Its good to get lots of opinions and experiences I think..
thanks for the advice so far guys.. any siamese owners out there?

hi!
thanks for all your advice - finally managed to get to the vet today and she gave him something in case it is cystis and the zylene to chill him out. Heres hoping... otherwise he may have to find somewhere else to live and that would be tooo sad as he is my baby!

he's munched it all down nicely on some ham - (too trusting...)

sadly the drugs dont work (thanks to The Verve for the words..) - they chilled him out for a few days but he just sprayed again on the curtains this time. Looking straight at me.
So Im going to get some Valerian (thanks Mainecoons) and find him somewhere else to go for a few months Hopefully this will make him forget the stressfukk few months he has had and I dont have to say goodbye forever .