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Vallhala · 18/04/2010 20:58

What do you make of this please?

We were walking the dogs this afternoon when we got to a spot with a horrific smell, a mix of foxes and something dead. We soon found out why... DD1 spotted two dead foxes laying beside one another.

I must confess I couldn't go near them (would be a sobbing, shaking mess) but my calm, rational 14 yo (who's had a good home-ed grounding in wildlife and is pretty savvy) reported them to be probably a male and a small female, definately both adult, fairly recently dead, which makes sense as there was no such appalling smell on Friday, which is when we last took that route. The male had a golf-ball sized laceration to his back, raw flesh like when you come skidding off a bike but no indentation (I thought shotgun but DD reckons not). The female's torso was twisted with the rear legs in the opposite direction to the front. DD says it looked thus like she'd been thrown there.

They were right outside what looks like a foxhole by the river (the other side being a public footpath alongside farmer's fields).

Strikes me they weren't natural deaths, poor creatures, but if not, what? Any ideas?

If it's human involvement they don't want to meet me, that I can promise!

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stripeyknickersspottysocks · 18/04/2010 21:02

Trapped and then removed from trap? Any injuries to legs?

Vallhala · 18/04/2010 21:02

Correction! DD thinks the laceration to the male was large marble sized. Now I am thinking shotgun...

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stripeyknickersspottysocks · 18/04/2010 21:04

Could well be. The female may well have had a gunshot wound on the side of her that you couldn't see.

Vallhala · 18/04/2010 21:04

Couldn't see the male's legs, Stripey, they were all underneath his body. No apparent injuries to the female's, just that the back ones were facing away from the front ones iyswim.

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Bella32 · 18/04/2010 21:10

Crikey. There would probably have been cubs too

I'd call the RSPCA - I know they can be worse than useless, but they need to know.

What an awful discovery

101damnations · 18/04/2010 21:12

A shotgun would leave a larger wound -multiple pellets.Sounds like a rifle to me,it is probably a pest controller/gamekeeper as it is still laying season and lambing season.

101damnations · 18/04/2010 21:14

Can't imagine the RSPCA will be interested.It isn't illegal to shoot foxes.

Bella32 · 18/04/2010 21:22

No, of course it isn't illegal to shoot them but nobody knows for sure they were shot, or what happened to the cubs.

Vallhala · 18/04/2010 21:23

No lambs here, it's arable country, but a fair point nonetheless.

Without meaning to sound dismissive, Bella, and not trying to bang my own drum here, but I'm not sure that the RSPCA will do anything either... as has been said, shooting foxes isn't illegal, sadly.

I fear there would have been cubs too. DD says that the female was very thin, as if she had recently given birth and was feeding.

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Vallhala · 18/04/2010 21:24

Cross posted, sorry Bella, you're right (again!).

I'll call them now. Thanks!

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Bella32 · 18/04/2010 21:27

I just think there's no harm picking the phone up - useless as the RSPCA are, it's worth a phone call

Vallhala · 18/04/2010 21:52

I've called the RSPCA who are passing the report on to the team which deals with these things but understandably they can't do much as they haven't a perpetrator if it is indeed cruelty. They've suggested I call DEFRA, which I shall do in the morning.

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