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Cesar Millan

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Bella32 · 27/01/2010 22:09

Self explanatory video

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Bella32 · 27/01/2010 22:10

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ShinyAndNew · 27/01/2010 23:19

That poor dog It looked horrified at the end trying to hide under the chair like. It was clearly trying to escpae and he was pushing the cat closer and closer. In whos world is that training?

Is it just me being thick or could this go horribly wrong? i.e. dog sees cat, dpg experiences pain, dog associates cat with pain, dog eliminates source of pain.

iggypiggy · 28/01/2010 10:48

really don't like him.

midori1999 · 28/01/2010 11:15

I can't see the link on my computer, but I think I have seen it before if it is the one with the shock collar and the cat.

I am not suprised the owner got bitten (can't even remember if that is shown in the video clip, but she did) or that the dog is now terrified of the cat. What a prize idiot CM is, it is perfectly possible and simple to train a dog not to chase or be interested in a cat without resorting to such stupid and cruel measures, and still have the dog and cat happy to be around each other.

I don't think he has really solved the problem here at all, just created another one.

StayingDavidTennantsGirl · 28/01/2010 11:44

Can I ask how to do it, please midori? At the moment our cat lives mainly upstairs, and his food is up there (so he gets a chance to eat it before the greedy lab does), and he races past the dog when he has to come downstairs and go out.

We have tried to get them together, holding them both, and trying to make it clear to the cat that the dog is under control and can't get him, and trying to discourage the dog from making sudden moves, whilst getting them both to get a bit closer, but no real success so far.

I haven't watched the video, but if the dog is getting shocks when it goes near the cat, that is appalling - indeed, any use of a shock collar is.

midori1999 · 28/01/2010 12:27

Well, I can tell you how we successfuly introduced a 14 month old cat that had never lived with a dog to three dogs that had never lived with a cat and wanted to chase every cat they saw...

We started with a stairgate between the living room and the hallway and the cat did stay upstairs initially, but although we kept dry food upstairs for her, we started giving her abit of wet fod and then gradually moving that downstairs closer to the dogs, only moving it when she was happy with where she was. She eventually started to realise that the dogs couldn't get near her and eventually would go quite close to them. It jhelped that our dogs will 'leave' on command and if they paid undue attention to the cat we distracted by saying 'leave' and giving a treat when they did. I did also hold the cat near the dogs a few times, but only what she was happy with.

Once the cat was hapy being near the dogs, we got the dogs on leads (just in case) and shut the cat int he living room with us and then brought the dogs in. We did bring one in at a time to start with. The cat would initially stay up her cat tree and ignore the dogs. Again, we rewarded the dogs for ignoring her.

Eventually the cat realised they couldn't get her and started to mosy past them. Once the dogs were completely ignoring her we let them in the room and off the leads. They did try and approach her and have a litle sniff, but a 'leave' made them come away. She did hiss at them a couple of times when they approached her, but that was it.

I supppose at any time had the dogs got too excited or the cat been distressed, we would have gone back a step.

We have since got a kitten and although the dogs got excited at first as they knew it was a different cat, we never had any problems and the youngest dog and kitten (now seven months old) play together quite a lot, which is great to see. The cats are house cats and they just go about their business ignoring the dogs and the dogs do the same. Our dogs would still try and chase any outside cats if they got the chance, I suspect and I always make sur ethe dog and cats dont' have access to each other if I am out. I really doubt anything would happen, but dogs are dogs at thend of the day, and it's not worth the risk.

Oh, I used the same brush on the cat as the dogs too. Apparently cats work a lot by smells, so maybe you could give the dog a blanket and then give it to the cat afterwards, still smelling of the dog? You can also get a thing calle d'Feliway' a cat appeasing pheremone spray that might help.

Hope this helps a bit.

StayingDavidTennantsGirl · 28/01/2010 13:24

That is very helpful indeed, midori - many thanks.

We currently have a stairgate across the stairs, and could work at moving the cat's food gradually down the stairs a step at a time.

We're also going to have to get the dog rock-solid on the 'leave' command - I have to confess that she's not at the moment. We have been a bit lax on her training, and need to get our fingers out, frankly. But we do want a well-behaved, happy dog, so we are willing to put in the work.

Again, thanks.

PS - when I can work out how, I will post some pics of our puppy on my profile - so everyone can see how beautiful she is (pfd + precious first dog - ).

StayingDavidTennantsGirl · 28/01/2010 13:27

Sorry - should read pfd = precious first dog.

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