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Cat and dog breeding

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wearthefoxhat · 05/01/2010 11:41

My sister has just got a ragdoll kitten, and was telling me that she (the kitten) cannot be bred from, and can only be registered when the breeder has seen a vet's letter to say she has been spayed.

I've never had anything to do with pedigree cats, and I'm really impressed with this.

I know too many people who spend hundreds on a pedigree dog, and then decide to breed from it to recoup some of the money (and inevitably end up more out of pocket), even when the dog is a poor example of the breed.

So, would the kennel club benefit by having stricter policies on breeding, or would this bring about more problems with in-breeding.

Sorry, this is a snow bound sort of non-question - I'm bored at home, and interested in knowing more about the kennel club and the cat equivalent

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Pagen · 05/01/2010 14:32

We are still waiting on the snow in Salisbury but my coat is by the door at work ready to go!! LOL
My partner and I have a 9mth pedigree rottie, Tyler, who came from a well known kennel club approved breeder and we signed a document to say that we wouldn't breed from him. It was my understanding at the time that this is common practise now?
We had no intention of breeding from Tyler anyway and he had his snip just 2 weeks ago and has quickly recovered (although my partner may continue to suffer for many more months...what is it with men and getting pets castrated???).
I personally think it should be made law that unless you apply for a licence, that has a high enough cost attached to discourage most people, that you cannot breed from your pet. There are way too many unwanted pets for people to be still breeding yet more.
On a side note, I love rag dolls, I've always had cats and have a particular fondness for maine coones & norwegian forests. I've always wanted a rag doll but I'm strictly a stray and unwanted cats only girl (The pedigree dog was an exception to the rule as my partner pestered for months..I would have rather gone to the local animal shelter...but i wouldn't be without him now).
Enjoy the snow!

midori1999 · 05/01/2010 17:48

The KC do have a similar system. The breeder can place endorsements on the dog's pedigree which prevent any progeny being registered with the KC. Sadly, just like with pedigree cats, the system is open to abuse and some people will breed anyway and just not register the progeny, as they can't. Hence we see all the ads which say 'parents registered, but not the pups/kittens'.

I breed Golden Retrievers and place endorsments on the papers of all puppies I breed. The buyer them signs a contract, part of which expains what the endorsements are, why I have decded to place them, and, that if they want to breed in the future, how to get me to lift them. I would lift the endorsements (only the breeder can do this and it means progeny can then e KC registered) subject to good enough health tests results, the dog or bitch being of a suitable age, temprement and a good enough example of the breed. I am maybe not as strict about lifting endorsements as some breeders are, as some will only lift if the dog has an extremely successful showing career or is a SH CH. Personally, I think if people really want to, they'll breed anyway, and I'd rather they did it the right way wth my help and guidance than just thought they might as well not bother to health test and do it anyway. I try and maintain a good relationship with all my puppy buyers, so they will come to me if thy want to breed.

Neutering with dogs is not something I would insist on. It is essential for cats, or at least queens, that will not be bred for health reasons, but it's not so cut and dried for dogs, and because of that, neuering is not something I would ever insist anyone did.

A lot of the problem regarding dogs in the UK is caused by lack of knowledge on the buyers part, or even selfishness. For example, Joe Smith works full time and so doshis wife,so no decent breeder will sel him a pup. He thinks it's his right to have one though, so goes to a puppy farmer or BYB who couldn't care less once they have the cash. OR, people don't want to wait, and the fact is, most decent dog breeders do not breed often and people will have to wait. Not everyone is aware of the importance of health tesing either and even if they do, some people think it won't happen to them. I do think education would go a long way to help.

I've gone on abit, but I aso have a Ragdoll and they are fab cats.

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