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Puppy bothering/mouthing ccats

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nooka · 20/12/2009 07:05

We have recently adopted a puppy (he is about three months old and we've had him for four weeks now). So far on most things he's doing pretty well. We're now on two days with no accidents, he's down to waking up twice in the night, learning to sit, lie down, drop and come, and is generally a sociable and pleasant little dog.

But he is still very mouthy, and every now and then gets a mad moment of rushing about with his mouth open, biting everything nearby. dh worries he might bite one of the many visiting children (we have a 9 and 10 year old, and they are pretty sociable). We are working on a no tolerance approach to the biting this week, with ignoring, stand still, walking away and trying always to have a chew toy ready to give him instead of the clothes/hands/feet he's after. Hopefully this will work!

But our biggest issue is the cats. dh insisted that we got a puppy because he read that the cats would cope better (we have two rescue cats, about three years old now, who apparently had had dogs in their life before - we've had them for a year). This is our first dog as adults, but we both grew up with dogs, and dh also had cats. His experience was that the cats made sure that the pup knew how to behave, so he expected the cats to be quite dominant. One of our cats is quite canny and the pup generally leaves her alone, but unfortunately the other one generally puts up with being poked and licked for a while, vaguely wave his paws as the pup (which he seems to quite enjoy) and then runs off. Cue pup chasing him, and more recently catching up and then biting his back. Sometimes this makes the cat squeak. This really worries dh, and has made him start talking about "taking him back" (I don't think he'd actually follow through with this, as he and the pup spend a lot of time together, and a fair bit of the time is cuddling together).

The pup has two proper walks a day plus two round the block walks (and this makes a huge difference to his behaviour) he has lots of chew toys, and we have found some ranges of puppy rawhide to give him (again this really clams him down) plus he has bones too. We are trying really hard on stay at the moment, and have started giving him treats for sitting still when the cats are around rather than yelling at him when he does chase the cat, but that's this week's approach so quite new.

So I'm just looking for any additional ideas on the cat chasing/biting front. dh thinks that the pup wants to hump the cat (he recently has been humping anything furry, despite coming to us already castrated). I'm assuming I can't spray the cat's back with bitter lime?

Oh, and he is mixed breed - his mum was an American Water Spaniel and his father is unknown, but according to the vet he probably has some husky and some lab in him. He seems to have quite a strong retriever nature.

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BellasSparklyBaubles · 20/12/2009 08:54

Sounds like you're doing really well with him.
Have you tried leaving a house line ( long trailing light lead) on him so you can stop him chasing?

nooka · 20/12/2009 17:13

Thanks Bella, no he has pretty much total freedom really, except when he's walking around the block. He tends to chew his lead whenever possible, and his favourite toy is his rope tuggy. Wouldn't he be inclined to chew/play with the long line too?

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ShinyAndNew · 20/12/2009 17:18

My cat, who is well used to dogs, was like this when we first got our dog. The dog loved to chase the cat. For the first two weeks the cat sulked and refused to leave the relative safety of the dds room. They even started taking food up there to him. He would come down for 15 mins each night to eat/drink/toilet and then go back.

That was about two months ago and they are the best of friends now. The cat will now let the dog when he has gone too far. The dog still chases the cat sometimes, but if he is not in the mood to play, he will let the dog know. But when we first got the dog, the cat wouldn't tell him off. He'd just struggle or wait to be rescued.

BellasSparklyBaubles · 20/12/2009 19:08

Nooka - I have a cat who just will not tell the dogs off, and I've had to work very hard on my pup to stop her doing what yours is doing now.

The problem is that once they've chased the cat and caught it, the whole thing becomes much harder to stop because it's self-rewarding: catching the cat and biting it is a reward in itself. Plus you mentioned chasing the dc and mouthing them.

A house line is a good idea to help you stop any undesirable chasing behaviour before the pup catches something and gets the 'reward'.

Does pup also get enough rest and time in a crate or similar, to teach pup that sometimes he needs to be calm and also to ensure he's not over-tired (which can make their behaviour worse)?

nooka · 20/12/2009 19:57

Actually I have noticed that his really wild times are often just before he settles down for a really good sleep. We are not using a crate, and he usually spends most of the day in the family room (where the cats also like to sleep). I did put him in his room a couple of days ago when he was really wild, just for a couple of minutes and that was very effective. I guess it's just about trying to teach him to come away when he is getting over excited.

I'll look at house lines when I go to the pet store later today (I'm buying buying more chew things - I had no idea the volume of stuff a pup needs!). I'd also like to find some keeping his mind busy toys. We got a Kong, but it's just not great for him. If we bury the treats too much he doesn't get them out, and if we just squirt stuff around the top he has it out in a couple of minutes!

Still we've all just had a lovely walk in the snow, so I think we should have a couple of hours of peace now

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BellasSparklyBaubles · 20/12/2009 20:48

Yes, they often get quite silly when tired, much like dc

These are good toys:

Tug a Jug

and it takes them quite a while to get the treats out. I give my pup her (dry) meals in one of these - also helps stop her bolting her food.

In a normal kong you can try peanut butter (I find the kong stuff a waste of time as it's like shaving foam and doesn't last at all) or fill with moist food or gravy and freeze for a longer lasting treat.

Just off to take my frozen kongs out for my woofas now...

nooka · 20/12/2009 21:17

The Tug-a-jug does look very cool. I'll see if I can get one out here (I'm in Canada). We did do his Kong with peanut butter, but he wasn't terribly interested after he'd got the easily accessed stuff, and then it was really difficult to clean. When I filled it with liver treats (his favourite) he couldn't get them out!

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frostyfingers · 21/12/2009 09:22

We have the problem the other way round. Almost 3 month old hand reared kitty terrorises the dogs - they get up and walk away when he appears. He lurves using them as climbing frames and chasing their tales, he also attacks their legs as he walks. Our 18 month old dog plays with him a bit but the older one can't bear it.

We have a fly swat (now a cat swat) which I whack down on the floor beside him when he starts harassing the dogs, and also pick him up by his scruff and remove him which is beginning to work, but hopefully as he gets older it'll wear off! We had a friends dog to stay last week (one of the ones we bred), and it was pathetic to see three large labs all cowering away from one small and spitty kitty!

BellasSparklyBaubles · 21/12/2009 10:13

lol - hand reared kittens are a scream

nooka · 22/12/2009 06:03

Lol. To be honest we expected our cats to terrorise the pup a bit too. Our best dog not getting quite what he expected moment was when we looked after a hand reared lamb for a few days, and he tried to suckle from our (male) dog Our dog was most perturbed!

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BellasSparklyBaubles · 22/12/2009 09:17

Arf

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