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Dog Training, How much is reasonable?

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TrinityRhinoIsInDetention · 06/08/2009 10:05

I have organised for a dog trainer to come to my house

I am paying a 'course' fee, one amount and he will come to my house regularly for as long as it takes to sort out the issues we have.

What would you say would be a reasonable amount??

just want to check I haven't messed up big time

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TrinityRhinoIsInDetention · 06/08/2009 16:42

anyone?

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TrinityRhinoIsInDetention · 06/08/2009 16:47
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MitchyInge · 06/08/2009 16:49

oh please don't panic, that all looks and sounds fine - just what you'd work on in traditional training classes!

TrinityRhinoIsInDetention · 06/08/2009 16:50

really does it sound ok

ok breathe

I just realy dont want to be in a position where I dont like what he is doing and having to tell him to go

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Ciara11 · 06/08/2009 16:50

Basically, i am a dog trainer and i run obedience classes for all dogs of all ages.
What he is going to teach you is ok and exactly what you need to learn, but what you have to remember is that its not just the dog that needs to learn, you do as well.

That means that you have to practice every single day with your dog for approx 30 mins to ensure that things are not forgotten.

No matter what and also the best way when children are involved is for you to do all the training first and teach the dog to obey, you can then train your children but everyone trying to learn at once will confuse the dog.

If you only train when the bloke comes to visit then im afraid you wont get very far very quickly.

MitchyInge · 06/08/2009 16:54

well it doesn't go into much detail about how they achieve those ends - like how they correct unwanted behaviour (you might not be happy with the use of aversives like spraying a dog with water, or making a loud noise, for example) but it does mention praise which is good!

TrinityRhinoIsInDetention · 06/08/2009 17:10

I'm definitely not going to only train when the guy is here

he said that I need to learn first and then the children need to learn aswell

its good to know about 30 mins a day will be a good amount, I can do that

here is more about the techniques

KNOW HOW
The most important and basic principle in dog training is the trainer must know how each manoeuvre, technique, act, method and position is accomplished prior to training the dog properly.

There is standards of performance described for each training exercise, and the dog trainer must adhere to the proper techniques and methods in order to achieve these standards. The dog trainer must conscientiously apply all the principles with enthusiasm, interest and desire to attain perfection. The dog trainer at all times must demand complete obedience from the dog. If the dog trainer is negligent in the training procedures, therefore the results are reflected in the dog's performance. As a result, it is essential that the dog trainer possess personal discipline. This is especially true during the time that you are applying the principle of repetition.

REPETITION
This is the method by which dogs learn and become proficient in performing a task. It is important and vital that the dog is given the same command over and over again until the appropriate and desired response is obtained. However, both the trainer and the dog can lose efficiency by practicing any one command too much during one time. After practicing a command for four (4) or five (5) minutes, it is best to move on to another command. If this is not possible, at least ten (10) minutes should lapse before resuming the practice of the original command.

In early stages of training, it is more important to show the dog what to do when given a particular command. If needed, the dog must be put into the proper position. Repeat the procedure as often as needed until the dog learns what to do when given the command. It is important that you NEVER allow the dog to assume a position incorrectly. If it begins to make an incorrect movement, correct it immediately. Then, start the exercise again, making sure the dog does not make the same mistake.

PATIENCE
One of the most important requirements of a dog trainer is patience. To make a dog perform the same exercise repeatedly, until it is properly executed, is a task that requires the ultimate in self-control. When a dog trainer loses his or her temper, they have lost control and this confuses the dog. Patience along with firmness results in a better trained dog.

PRAISE
The dog trainer who displays patience can motivate the dog properly through praise. Whenever the dog successfully executes a command, even if its' performance takes more time than expected, always reward it with a pat on the head or praise it in some other way. The dog is anxious to please its trainer, and the trainer should respond by praising the dog lavishly. When it is praised highly, the dog senses that it has done the correct thing and does it more readily the next time the same command is given. Several effective techniques are used to praise a dog. Kind words often do the trick. One trainer might prefer to pat the dog each time he or she wishes to reward it. Another trainer might allow the dog a few minutes in which to romp and play, or he/she may allow the dog to perform its favourite exercises. Still another trainer may apply a combination of these methods of praise.

Each dog requires a special method. Each trainer must determine which method of praise best suits the individual dog and this can be deternined during the trainer's early association with the dog. If the dog trainer is to maintain the dog's enthusiasm for work, each training period must be concluded with petting, praise and encouragement. When the dog's performance of the training exercise does not warrant praise, allow it to perform a short exercise which it already knows thoroughly and does well so that it can earn a reward. Although the dog must be amply rewarded for those exercises performed correctly, the dog must be corrected when the dogs' performance is incorrect and not satisfactory.

CORRECTION
A dog does not understand right from wrong as humans do. Reward and correction are the means by which a dog is taught. If the dog does an exercise incorrectly, do not allow it to go uncorrected. Withholding praise, or the simple admonition NO!, spoken reprovingly, or a sharp jerk on the leash, proves to be sufficient for correction purposes.

TIMING is probably the most curcial and important factor in administering any form of correction. Therefore, a reprimand, in whatever form, should be administered immediately when the incorrect act is performed. A dog cannot mentally connect a reprimand with an incorrect action committed some time before the reprimand.

NEVER correct a dog for clumsiness, slowness in learning, or inability to understand what is expected of it. In these cases, correction slows down the dog's training instead of accelerating it.

Observation, patience, self-control, and discretion are essential in correction. If the dog makes a mistake, the dog trainer may be at fault, and the dog trainer should think for a second about why the mistake was made. Proper correction indicates proper thinking.

seem ok?

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thighsmadeofcheddar · 06/08/2009 17:17

Trinity, you're doing a very good thing with the training.

We have a 5 year old GSD and we still have sessions with our trainer as he's so brilliant. (Ex police dog trainer etc) We feel enormous responsibilty to the general public to make sure our dog is completely under control.

Anyway, he comes to our house (we live in Surrey) for about £35 which is an hour session. Or we go to his place for an hour at about £28.

It's really important, imo, to make sure the dog understands his place in the pack, bottom! And that your kids also respect his space.

Good luck, it'll be great.

PS does this post sound naff? pps if you're in surrey happy to pass on his details.

TrinityRhinoIsInDetention · 06/08/2009 17:18

thanks thighs

I'm in scotland

doesn't sound naff at all

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thighsmadeofcheddar · 06/08/2009 17:29

thanks, sorry just thought it sounded abit holier than thou.

anyway, good luck with it. it'll be great.

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