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will pet goldfish get eaten in a park pond by bigger fish?

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zookeeper · 20/07/2009 09:40

anyone?

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RubberDuck · 22/07/2009 10:37

Sorry, it's a soapbox of mine

sweetnitanitro · 22/07/2009 10:40

No, don't apologise! I wish more people would stand up for fish, they are treated like disposable ornaments and it's just not fair. I mainly blame the aquatic industry for peddling such unsuitable tanks (especially the ones aimed at kids) which they know will not support a goldfish but they market them as goldfish tanks anyway. Bastards

RubberDuck · 22/07/2009 10:46

Yes. I have been known to give loud lectures about fishy rights to my children to explain why they CANNOT have a spongebob squarepants tank with three goldfish in it like the picture on the box while in Pets at Home.

They've learned not to set me off now

Washersaurus · 22/07/2009 11:04

I agree with RubberDuck -not many fish tanks are suitable for goldfish as they need so much filtration.

I would never release a goldfish into the wild. We rehomed a little plecostomus from a relative as it had grown too big for their tank and it quickly outgrew ours (which was fairly large) - we rehomed it at a local aquatic centre . They shouldn't sell them really as they start off so small and grow to be fecking enormous, like goldfish....

sweetnitanitro · 22/07/2009 11:17

Oh yeah, don't get me started on shops that sell tankbusters I recently stopped going to the fish shop I've been using for years because they were selling shark catfish that to 2ft long. They had at least 10 for sale and they were only a couple of inches long. I wonder how many of those will get flushed or dumped in the local river . I go to the local branch of Maidenhead now, they are much more responsible.

RubberDuck- I got kicked out of a fish shop once for complaining about the state of their gouramis DH was with me, I don't think he was impressed!

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zookeeper · 22/07/2009 19:20

God you're all so sanctimonious. lol.

I'm going to feed my (much loved and well-cared for) dog.

Still not feeling it for the fish I'm afraid

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sweetnitanitro · 22/07/2009 19:52

I'd rather be sanctimonious than cruel and a criminal.

Washersaurus · 22/07/2009 21:44

Hmm I wonder what will become of your dog when he becomes an unwanted burden on your family...

You sound like a truly lovely person, lol

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zookeeper · 24/07/2009 00:34

Feel the personal attacks are completely unwarranted tbh.

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Bella21 · 24/07/2009 11:06

You're right, zookeeper.

Perhaps you ought to apologise for calling the other posters sanctimonious.

SausageRocket · 24/07/2009 11:10

goodness zookeeper. What you did was pretty crap.

I would suggest a name change, yours seems wholly unsuitable now.

Lovemyshoes · 24/07/2009 11:22

I once had some goldfish that had grown too big for the tank, the petshop wouldn't take them, but, he checked them for me to make sure they were in good health and told me how to introduce them to a pond if I could find one suitable.

Luckily, one of my friends had a koi carp pond and I put them in, it tooks hours to help them re-adjust and I'm glad I did it, when I looked at them last the were MASSIVE and had obviously thrived.

Just putting them in a pond is irresponsible, how do you know that they weren't ill and you have infected the whole pond with dropsy or whitespot?

Stretch · 24/07/2009 11:50

I seem to remember a thread similar to this from a few months ago????

purpleflower · 24/07/2009 12:01

Look at this

RubberDuck · 24/07/2009 12:09

purpleflower: ugh, the poor sods can barely turn around.

That's approximately (being generous, he didn't give a height measurement on the ad) a 40 gallon tank. There should be a maximum of 3 goldfish in that (20 gal for the first goldfish, 10 gal for each subsequent goldfish).

He has FIFTEEN

purpleflower · 24/07/2009 12:13

I know

I found it while looking for a new tank for my trops. It's so cruel I always try to make sure my tanks are under stocked and research the fish before I buy them so they don't get too big (won't be too much of a problem when I get a 6ft )

RubberDuck · 24/07/2009 12:20

Ooooo 6ft tank ... drool

I currently have a 60L tropical tank (biorb) and am looking at upgrading to a 180L (currently thinking of the Juwel Vision) with an external filter and decent substrate to grow plants in the autumn. That's really the maximum size I can have in the space (I should really go for 120L, but I decided the 180L wasn't that much bigger in dimensions).

I keep eating into my savings account for boring stuff like kids' swimming lessons though, so every time I get close I empty it out again

purpleflower · 24/07/2009 12:31

I have a 120l and a juwel rio 180 at the moment lol. They will be going very soon to help towards a 6ft.

I'm combining the 2 together in to one, most of the fish are compatable and the couple that aren't have a good howe lined up with my cousin in her juwel trigon 350, so lots of happy fish lol. I have just bought a 240l to tide me over until the perfect 6ft comes up, It's not as much space overall as they have now but it's only temporary and as I said, my tanks are understocked anyway and it has a very good filter

purpleflower · 24/07/2009 12:33

Oh my Rio has an internal filter but the new 4ft comes with an external which will be a new experience for me I'm not sure whether to change to sand from gravel, too many decisions

RubberDuck · 24/07/2009 12:50

I want to get that special red substrate by Seachem - it's flippin expensive (reckon it will cost about £100 just for the substrate ) but excellent for plants.

Were you happy with the Juwel? One I'm looking at comes with an internal I think, but has the space in the cabinet for an external, so will pay the extra. Fed up of having to take everything out of the biorb to clean the filter/change the sponge/remove carbon.

wannaBe · 24/07/2009 12:51

it's no different to taking a dog and dumping it on the motorway. Just because it's "only a goldfish" doesn't make it any less cruel.

We have a maaaasive tropical tank (I honestly can't remember how much it holds) and a 60l tank for ds' goldfish.

The only thing is that our tropical tank is clearly such a lovely environment that our catfish have bred and we are now overrun with them and the local branch of maidenhead aquatics don't want to take them.

RubberDuck · 24/07/2009 12:51

Seachem Flourite

RubberDuck · 24/07/2009 12:53

wannabe: might be worth seeing if there's a aquarist club near you - you might find new homes via that if the shop won't take them.

purpleflower · 24/07/2009 13:06

I love my Juwel, I think it's a lovely tank. The only problem is that I've ended up with 8 clown loach in there, 6 came with the tank and 2 passed on from a smaller tank. They need much more space. The filter seems very good in it but it does take up quite a bit of space. You lift the lid at the back and then you can pull out cages with the filter media in there so no pulling the whole tank apart

That substrate looks good, but I really can't afford it at the moment.

RubberDuck · 24/07/2009 13:10

Yeah - I'm still in savings mode

But I love real plants and that was one of the really tricky things in a biorb to get established well, so I want to do it all "properly". Don't mind waiting longer until I have the money saved.

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