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electric dog fence, ha got you know dam dog.

17 replies

zanz1bar · 15/03/2009 20:15

what a fantastic invention.
Set it up yesterday and have spent a whole sunny day with dog and children in the garden,instead of running across fields carrying large toddler, screaming my head off at stupid mutley dog.
But a few questions.
I have a Canifluge system 2nd hand so no instructions. How do you change the intesity of the shock, althhough AIBU to get a lot of pleasure from watching the mut find out that a fence is to keep him in not jumping.
Also how soon do i change collars to the dummy.

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FairMidden · 15/03/2009 20:18

YABU, definitely.

PottyCock · 15/03/2009 20:20

Shock Hmm

PurpleOne · 15/03/2009 21:02

Are you serious?

SheSellsSeashellsByTheSeashore · 15/03/2009 21:14

Erm, surely training the dog in recall may have been a better/cheaper/kinder idea?

I am not against those fence/collars type things per say, but it seems to me like you have just not bothered training your dog.

And yes, to get any pleasure at all from seeing your dog in pain is very unreasonable.

I'd shout troll but sadly I don't believe you are one.

Ditch the torture collar and get to trainig classes.

diedandgonetodevon · 15/03/2009 21:16

Your dog needs some decent training not a shock to keep him in line.

zanz1bar · 15/03/2009 21:43

oh dear, i went too far , sorry.
i have a springer spaniel with the technique of houdini and live on a farm on a blind bend on a busy road.
it has scared the hell out of me when he has got out and i have been to dog training classes but thought the canifuge dog fence was a responsible precaution to his amazing abilities to climb and jump 6 foot fencing or dig under.
i will be honest and say that with a toddler and baby my full attention is not on my dog when we are in the garden, indeed maybe my full attention has not been on him enough. Although i think he is obediant to commands, the sight of a rabbit can just be too much if i am not fully aware of the temptation and call him to heel.
i wpuld like to ask those MNetters with experience of such a containment system what they thought about it and how they used it.
Please believe me my jibe at getting 'pleasure' from my dogs reaction to the electric fence is relly more relief that he is out of danger.

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PurpleOne · 16/03/2009 02:29

if you were worried about him chasing rabbits, maybe you shouldnt have got a spaniel. i know a few people with spaniels and they use these dogs to help with the pheasant / rabbit hunt. spaniels will chase rabbits - as will most dogs.

maybe you should get a cat rather than electrocute the poor thing.

PottyCock · 16/03/2009 07:13

Train him you dodo. It ain't that hard.

FairMidden · 16/03/2009 07:34

As you are seemingly (and sadly) not a troll, I will return to this thread to tell you that these things can be really dangerous. With these fences there's a risk of the dog associating the shock with something other than the fence - a car going past, or one of your children for example. You're then left with a fearful, anxious and confused pet and the results of this can be not very nice.

I honestly think that most people with dogs who behave like this would see huge improvements if they exercised the dog more. Even if you have to pay someone, making sure this dog gets some proper walks burning off his energy (and this is a serious investment of time on your part, given that you've got yourself a Springer) will make him much, much less likely to be interested or bothered about what's on the other side of the fence. Also, if he isn't already, neuter him because if he's getting out in search of a bitch then he'll keep on trying as long as he's entire.

wotulookinat · 16/03/2009 07:40

Maybe you need to consider if a toddler and a baby is enough already, and that maybe having the dog is too much.

throckenholt · 16/03/2009 07:45

I have some sympathy with you - I have a 1 year old collie who gets heaps of exercise - but also has an amazing ability to get out - usually when someone else walks past with their dog and he wants to go and play. At that particular time all the training makes absolutely no difference - he turns his ears off and goes into excitement mode. At present we are trying two things - make sure the fence is really secure (probably no good for you if he climbs and digs), but also to be vigilent and get our dog in when our neighbour goes by with her dogs (they are the main stimulus to our problem). And hoping that as he grows up a bit the novelty will wear off.

I have a friend who has a cable buried around her (big - approx 4 acres) garden and collars on her dogs - they get a small shock when they cross the cable - it seems to work very well for her dogs - and after the first few times they don't go near the cable. I am not sure how this compares to what you have.

I guess maybe another question is - is it the right time to have a lively young dog if you have a baby and a toddler to deal with too (we waited until our youngest was 5 before we got a pup).

zanz1bar · 16/03/2009 09:56

Thankyou for your replies, Yes Throckenholt that is exactly the system i have installed.
As i said we live on a farm with a big 4/5 acre garden and yard but close to a busy road. Yesterday was a beautiful day as we could enjoy the garden as a family without the constant worry about the dog and the road.
He is my Dh dog and a very well trained gun dog maybe his hunting and rabbiting skills have been encouraged too much, but he is a working dog primarily and not a only a pet. If you can excuse the excuses i had a bit too much wine and was flippant and playing for a laugh, believe me i love my dog and only want him to be happy, healthy and SAFE.

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frostyfingers · 16/03/2009 12:05

This is a really difficult one, and I sympathise. My mum had 2 dogs, both quite young, and both well trained. She then had a severe stroke and was in hospital for 6 months. My sister looked after one and I looked after the other.

When she went home she took the labrador that I had been looking after and my sister kept the spaniel as we all felt that it was too lively for my mum and it wouldn't be fair on either of them.

Anyway, my mum lets out lab for fresh air and exercise - lab disappears (never having done so before) and is found by neighbour having killed a deer - oh my god. My mother is distraught, but desperate to keep her dog as she is her only company and encourages her to get exercise. So, after several similar episodes, although thankfully with no more deaths, she installs one of these electric systems. It has done the job - after a couple of mild shocks the dog doesn't stray and the system is now permanently off. It sounds brutal, and isn't ideal, but it is never just a case of black and white and I know how easy it is for a dog to slip away when you are busy with children etc.

For us to take the dog away from my mother would be a disaster for her, and when we had her here, the dog was miserable being away from her owner. In an ideal world we would all train our dogs to do exactly as we want, when we want, but we can't foresee what's going to happen, my mother wouldn't have contemplated using the system if she hadn't been ill, but if it's that, or a dead dog then I know which I'd prefer.

We use electric fencing for horses, cattle, sheep and pigs so why the disapproval for dogs - like all these things, if it's done carefully it can work. I'll put my tin hat on now!

lilymolly · 16/03/2009 12:10

oh dear....

You have my support.

We live on main road too and so far (touch wood) my labs have learned their boundries.
That said, I use an electric fence for my horses and trust me once my eldest lab had touched that, she never went near it again.

They learn very quickly

Not sure I beleive in the electric collars btw, but I think electric fencing is ok.

SheSellsSeashellsByTheSeashore · 16/03/2009 12:12

In your case then I'd say the fence was a good idea. As I said I am not against them per say. I considered using an anti bark collar for my terrier, when we thought she was barking at night. Further investigation led us to a terrier three houses up, after we got a complaint about our dog barking on a night we were out and the dog was at my mums

I don't know how to use the system you speak of though, perhaps it would be advisable to speak to your vet or a dog trainer?

MitchyInge · 16/03/2009 12:15

I sympathise too, have a hard working and reasonably well trained springer who also does not recognise his boundaries and can and will scale our 6' garden wall if he sees a c-a-t - this is despite being born in a house with cats and living with them every single day of his life. Something shuts down in his brain and there is no communicating with him, so if he wants to be in the garden with us he has to be on an extendable lead.

Annoyingly his recall is perfect out in the fields, it's just something to with cats.

MitchyInge · 16/03/2009 12:16
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something to do with cats

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