Help, new puppy cries *all* night!

[LittleB]

Please help! I think we're doing everything right but our new puupy cried all night, with just the odd break, saw 11,1,2,3,5 etc! He's an 8wk border terrier cross called Thistle. We collected him Thursday, I put him in my older dogs crate(he hardly uses it now). We'd fed him over an hour before bed, played with him, he'd done wee and poo and was sleepy so put him in crate, he cried non-stop for over an hour, I was worried he'd wake dd(3.6) so I came down, came in (when he was pausing between cries) let him out and slept on the sofa, I was a bit worried he would hurt himself in a too big crate. He settled fine when I was on the sofa. Last night we'd got the smaller crate for him, and he'd been much happier in the house. I spoke to the vets (when he had his first jab) and the trainer (when I booked him in for puppy training) and both said leave him to cry. We put him in the crate 3 times during the day for around 30mins to get him used to it, he cried twice but slept once. We've been feeding him in the crate sometimes, plying with him in it, and stroking him and he's sleeping in it. Again last night he went out did what he needed too, had a play, was sleepy, I got him off to sleep in the crate, but within 5 mins he was crying and went on almost all night. I came down at 5ish (waited for him to stop before I came in the room, and then again before I let him out. He hadn't messed in the cage so went straight out and settled again when I crashed out on the sofa. Luckily dd slept through the lot but me and DH are shattered. Is there anything else I could be doing. I've got a DAP plugged in near the crate, my other dog is in the same room. It will get better soon won't it? My other dog wasn't anywhere near as bad as this!

I think you need to grit your teeth and get some ear plugs. If you come down everytime he whines then he's getting a reward for it.

Can you give him a piece of clothignthat smells of you so he can snuggle down to that? Also try leaving a quiet radio on for him.

Do you have him in the crate because you're worried about chewing? Just wondering if he might settle betetr out of the crate?

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A tip that worked for us was to wrap a ticking clock in a jumper or t-shirt belonging to whoever the puppy went to most for cuddles. The ticking apparently reminds them of a heartbeat so they don't wake up and panic because they are on their own.

do you trust him with your older dog? we had this with puppy 2, who we later worked out had been cuddled constantly for the first 8 weeks of his life lol... we gave up after 3 nights of listening to him crying all night in the crate and locked him in the kitchen (easily moppable floor) with dog no. 1 (at about 3 in the morning after a strop lol). they both survived the night, he shut up, and they have been inseperable ever since.
i'd love to have persevered with the crate idea, and the DAP and the ticking clock etc, but after 3 nights with not a hint of any of it working i went for the easy life.

Ticking clock worked for me

Hard as it is, you have to ignore them. Within a couple of nights it will stop, honestly. The radio idea works well, ime, so long as you have it one for ages before you go to bed (if you turn it on as you go up they'll associate it with being 'abandoned').

I'd have a word with your neighbours too (if you've got any adjacent) just to say things might be a bit noisy for a night or two but it will pass.

I didn't have much luck with crates with either of mine. Both were much happier in beds (or on the sofa).

Thanks everyone.
I'll try the ticking clock and radio. Don't really want to leave him out of the crate, he was fine in it earlier when we popped out for an hour, we think, sleeping when we left and on our return. I think my other dog would be upset at being shut in the kitchen , and I don't want two crying. The crate is to housetrain him hopefully, his teeth are too small to do any damage chewing. He has been going into it of his own accord today, and my other dog still uses his sometimes, and we couldn't manage without them when we go camping in the summer. Fingers crossed it will stop in a day or two then. I have spoken to the neighbours but luckily we have thick walls and they didn't hear a thing.
I'll let you know how he is tomorrow!

Just wanted to say thanks, he was much better last night. We left the radio on low, put an item of clothing in his crate and put a clock next to him and he slept much better. He did wake us up at 3ish, but went off again, then I came down at 5.30 when he was crying again to let him out so he could relieve himself! I then crashed out on the sofa in the room with him as I didn't want to put him back in his crate. Hopefully it'll carry on getting better and he'll sleep through soon, and later!