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16 year old and guinea pigs!

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EdenFlower · 17/03/2022 20:09

When dd was 13 she bought guinea pigs with her birthday money,. This was against my wishes because she had previous form a couple of years before for not remembering to feed pets. However, DH wanted her to have another chance as she was older. But, 3.5 years down the line dd is now 16 and it's been a constant battle, reminding her, pestering her to take care of them. At her age I now expect her to be fully responsible for them- she's old enough now, surely!

They are in an indoor cage with a fleece liner which requires a daily sweep out to keep the mountains of poo down! We expect her to top up their food bowl and hay before school, sweep out after school and give them greens. Then she needs to put the fleece in the washing machine at the weekend, hang it to dry and put new fleece liner in. We are in a constant cycle , and have been for the 3.5 years we've had them, where she looks after them well for about 2 weeks, then she starts to slack- first, she forgets the greens, then she stops sweeping them out and they are sitting in their house a pile of poo when I check, then she lets the water bottle go green, then she forgets to let us know they are out of supplies and it's a mad dash to the pet shop. Then we have to have the 'responsibility talk" again, or I lose the plot with her, or we threaten to rehome them, or we remove her allowance, or we ground her.. etc Then she is diligent for a week or two and the cycle starts again.

What are we to do? Are we expecting too much? I am torn between rehoming them and not because I feel rehoming is a cop -out, in my view a pet is for life unless you can't look after it- I don't know how to get her to take the responsibility - Tonight I've checked them and they were in a filthy mess. I've told her tonight I'm ashamed of her for leaving them in a filthy state and embarrassed to have a daughter that would do that to an animal. Maybe this was the wrong thing- I'm more ashamed of myself for trusting she was cleaning them.

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Allaboutthatvase · 18/03/2022 17:03

Don't forget that it's not unheard of for guinea pigs to live till 8.
They've potentially got a few years left in them, what's the plan if she's off to uni for Example?

I think pet stores should have more responsibility in explaining lifespans of pets. Rabbits are often homed as pets for preteens with limited mention of the fact the rabbits likely to live past the kids graduation of uni, and well into the kids 20's

Notanotherwindow · 18/03/2022 17:06

I'd rehome them tbh but make sure I vet the new owners myself to make sure they are well looked after. No more chances.

Just10moreminutesplease · 18/03/2022 17:07

I don’t think many teens are ready to be responsible for pets without regular reminders. If your DH was the one who agreed for her to get them then he should take responsibility for their well-being.

MargosKaftan · 18/03/2022 17:14

Its your dh you should be angry at - he chose to have a family pet, i dont care if she's 16 now, she was 13 when he decided to get a family pet. If an adult decides to get a pet then they take on the responsibility, it is never a child's responsibility. This is why children can't buy animals without an adult - every sensible person knows the responsibility is the adults.

Forget your dd for a moment, why is it you thats nagging her and ensuring they are cared for? They are your dhs responsibility. You need a conversation with him. He takes it back on, either doing the work himself or the checking and nagging dd. You'll remind twice when its clearly not been done then you'll rehome. You aren't doing it again.

Catlitterqueen · 18/03/2022 17:16

I ended up doing most of the work with ours, the teens were distracted most of the time and I love Guinea pigs.
They were keen at the beginning and good a feeding but nowhere to be found when the run needed cleaning. During warmer weather we had a huge outdoor run in the garden with a lift off roof. It became DD2s job to catch them to put them to bed at night as she was good at it.

EdenFlower · 18/03/2022 17:23

Thanks for the replies everyone. Yes, you are right, I should be angry at DH, although he does help look after them. Of course when dd was 13 we supported her in caring for them, and when she's at school DH will put them out in the run as he's working at home, he's the one who goes and buys food for them and he does also remind her to feed them etc. TBH he gets as frustrated as I do! I'm the real animal lover of the family though and we do have other pets which are mine, I think this is why I expect DD to have the same mindset as me and can't understand her lack of interest in them!

Anyway, I've given her 3 choices- rehome, assign them to my care or I will watch over her every day while she does the chores- never again will she be trusted to have done it.

When she goes to university I had assumed I would care for them for her- I don't mind that- I don't actually mind looking after them myself- I love guinea pigs- it's just the disappointment in her attitude that i can't get past!

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ThievesTemple · 18/03/2022 22:07

I agree with @Hannahthepink that you should share the care.
Most chn loss the initial interest in a pet, the pet is a family pet and should be taken care of by the family. She must be busy with school etc so I’d suggest you look after them Mon-Fri and she does Sat and Sunday. In the holidays she takes on more of their care.

I’d take her phone until she’s taken care of them at the wkd.

Took · 18/03/2022 22:36

My DS was 10 when we got his piggies and he's 14 now.
He does try to get away with not doing a sweep out daily etc but I don’t allow it. I take their care very seriously and don’t tolerate any neglect. I'll get him out of bed if he "forgets."
He's good most of the time. Ive really ingrained into him how it’s our responsibility to give them the best life we're able to.
If he left them to lie in their own poo or allowed their water to get manky there would be huge consequences for him. There’s be no screens, no money, no treats until he started caring for them properly.

I adore those wee pigs with all my heart and they can’t have a free roaming life with girl piggies so they'll get the best I can do.

Cherrysherbet · 18/03/2022 22:46

Whenever I have agreed to my kids getting pets, I am also understanding that they are ultimately my responsibility.

If I were you, I’d be taking over the care of these piggies myself. It’s not fair to leave them in poo or with a green water bottle. They are stuck in the middle of your argument, and they deserve better.

Feckaffoutofit · 02/04/2022 08:06

They came to live in your household when your DD was 13. They are your guinea pigs. Look after them. You have misunderstood who you should be ashamed of. You cannot just leave guinea pigs for days. Rehome them or start caring for them.

picklemewalnuts · 02/04/2022 08:32

@EdenFlower

Thanks for the replies everyone. Yes, you are right, I should be angry at DH, although he does help look after them. Of course when dd was 13 we supported her in caring for them, and when she's at school DH will put them out in the run as he's working at home, he's the one who goes and buys food for them and he does also remind her to feed them etc. TBH he gets as frustrated as I do! I'm the real animal lover of the family though and we do have other pets which are mine, I think this is why I expect DD to have the same mindset as me and can't understand her lack of interest in them!

Anyway, I've given her 3 choices- rehome, assign them to my care or I will watch over her every day while she does the chores- never again will she be trusted to have done it.

When she goes to university I had assumed I would care for them for her- I don't mind that- I don't actually mind looking after them myself- I love guinea pigs- it's just the disappointment in her attitude that i can't get past!

As a last ditch effort, could you control some of the care you give her? Do you do her washing, for example, or cook her meals?

How about sitting down with her and asking what it would take for her to prioritise them. Is it about her organisation, or does she just not want to do it/enjoy spending time with them? See if she comes up with a plan- she's more likely to stick with it if it's her plan. One suggestion you could make would be that you'll only do her washing/serve her meal if the GPs are clean and well cared for on washing day.
That link between regular care for her and regular care for her GPs may help her focus, not as a punishment but as a reminder.

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 14/05/2022 22:47

Your DD could not have bought them at 13yo that is illegal . So if your DH was there to facilitate this then yes HE is the one who should step up .He would have been the responsible adult

My DD got her GPs when she was 9yo (we got 2 adult boars ) DS insisted he ave one . He was useless as a guinea-pig owner and I confiscated his piggie .
This was GP1+GP2 we got up to GP8 over a period of eight years .
(I had guineas from the age of 9-22 so I knew what I was letting myself in for !)

DD and I did the work between us as we both owned the pigs . So if she was ill / away/busy or just a teenage CBA and was Mum can you do the pigs I did because animals welfare comes first and I was cleaning/feeding/cuddling my piggies anyway. I just said Ok but you do breakfast .

As the adult you/your DH step up , it's as simple as that . ( The unkind side of my brain would call it Man The Fuck Up )
Your guineas will hopefuly be around a few years but what will you do when you are left with one ?
( Thats why we got to 8 . the guinea-pig spiral - till we had three oldies then they shifted over The Bridge over a 6 month period )

CompostMaker · 14/05/2022 22:53

My children age 12 and 14 are responsible for their Guinea pigs and they do all their care. I occasionally need to remind them and then they go and do it. I have always raised them to think of how their actions affect others and also to do something of I ask them to.
Just tell your daughter to care for them - I would expect her to do as she is asked by the age of 16! It’s her job to raise the Guinea pigs and yours to continue raise your daughter to be a considerate and responsible adult.

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 14/05/2022 22:54

Rescues are full to bursting so probably not an option anyway , a lot of them will only take on neglect/cruelty cases .
GP1 through to GP8 were from Rescues .
Sadly some are dumped , or sent on holiday boarding and not collected , people will go to all lengths including the Gumtree "Needs Gone asap" like they're a spare kettle .

We got our lovely GP6 as he was an uncollected boardee
Their loss , he was a fabulous pig ( as they alll were )

PeterPomegranate · 14/05/2022 22:56

Albgo · 18/03/2022 14:03

Start looking after them properly yourself. Animals shouldn't have to suffer while a child learns a lesson or not.

This. You know they’re not being looked after. It’s wrong to let that happen when you could improve their lives.

CompostMaker · 14/05/2022 22:59

i honestly don’t know why people say the adults should just do it all if the children don’t. Why not teach your children to do as they are asked and to think about the animals welfare rather than teach them it’s ok to sit back and let mum or dad do everything as soon as they get bored.
It’s really not doing your child a favour to think it’s ok not to bother when things get tough as someone else will solve the problem for them.
Children need to learn consequences and boundaries. Just make the kids do it. It’s an important life lesson.

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 14/05/2022 23:25

i honestly don’t know why people say the adults should just do it all if the children don’t. Why not teach your children to do as they are asked and to think about the animals welfare rather than teach them it’s ok to sit back and let mum or dad do everything as soon as they get bored.
It’s really not doing your child a favour to think it’s ok not to bother when things get tough as someone else will solve the problem for them.
Children need to learn consequences and boundaries. Just make the kids do it. It’s an important life lesson

Fair enough they need to learn consequences but not at the expense of the welfare of a helpless animal .

Children by Law cannot buy an animal ,
So from the start they are the adults responsibility .

If you don't look after your phone I'm taking it from you .
If you play XBox when I tell you not to I'm taking the controller

An animal doesn't work like that .

Maybe if The Adult had to sign a legal document thete would be fewer kids got bored / kids outgrown adverts on Pet selling pages

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70isaLimitNotaTarget · 14/05/2022 23:29

It became DD2s job to catch them to put them to bed at night as she was good at it

Yes we had rwo big rabbit runs which DD could get into ( those gymnastics lessons paid off) or I could if I contorted myself .

NDN watched as DH and I were defeated by these tiny rodents evading capture !

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