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mower · 24/12/2007 14:25

Brought the most adorable jack russell puppy about 5 weeks ago. He is great in everyway apart from dragging his bottom along the floor (you know like when they have worms). Took him to the vets he has swollen anal glans, one of the causes of this can be having had worms. The breeder we brought him off assured us he had been wormed and we have wormed him every two weeks with wormer from the vet.
Dh now doesn't want him in the house so we have put a stair gate up in utility room so he lives in there, i let him out in the garden regularly and walk him 2 to 3 times a day.
I still feel sorry for him being cooped up in there all day so let him out to play in the house with me and have a cuddle when the children are asleep. So that he is not actually having contact with the children.
BUT he just did it again dragging his bottom along the floor so back to living in the utility room again. He dragged his bottom right where the boys aged 1 and 2 play.
So this is a contast thing playing on my mind.
Am I being crule leaving him in the utility room? Will the boys catch anything from him just draged his bottom on the floor?
Where shall I go from here, any advice?

Sorry for the long post just at my wits end with keeping everyone happy!!

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Wisteria · 24/12/2007 14:28

Anal glands cause itching and that is why they drag their bottoms, it's unpleasant but no big deal - you can help yourself instead of paying the vet's bill but it isn't pleasant - latex gloves and bit of vaseline; stick your finger up the bottom and feel around until you burst them (bit smelly but will stop it).

The only other thing to do is to let the vet do it.

mower · 24/12/2007 14:32

Don't think I could do that myself, but will have to take him back to vets in new year if he keeps doing it. He has only just come off the antibiotics for the anal glads so do you think they haven't got rid of it or could it be worms?

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hercules1 · 24/12/2007 14:33

You really need to be socialing him in a big way at this age. All puppies have worms I believe and often breeder just use cheap worming tablets rather than from the vets. I think that I am right in saying that even if you have then used tablets from teh vets the worms would have had a chance to develop already past the stage where the tablets would kill them.

SOrry if details not all right. We had the same thing with one of ours, came from teh breeder having being wormed on shop bought and had worms despite us then using tablets from the vets.

It sounds like his glands are blocked again maybe.

Tbh I would be concerned that I had an unsocialised Jack russell who at some point will have to mix with your little ones.

hercules1 · 24/12/2007 14:33

You would see the worms in his poo. If he has now been wormed from the vets he shouldnt have worms any more,

Wisteria · 24/12/2007 14:34

probably not worms and anal glands do come back if they've not been properly got rid of. we were never given antibiotics for them - popping them is better I think.

I know it sounds disgusting (well it is ) but it's not so bad once you've done it once - I got sick of going to the vets and he told me to do it myself.

I think it's one of those things that they either get or they don't.......

ggirlsbells · 24/12/2007 14:37

my dog groomer will have a squeeze of my dogs anal glands ...boak

mower · 24/12/2007 14:42

I agree he does need to be socialised with the children and probably it is his anal glands but what if it was worms and one of my babies went blind or got seriously ill how would I ever live with myself.

He comes out to the park and for car journeys with the boys but I just have huge problems with him rubbing his bottom on the floor where my children are playing who both suck their thumbs.

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Wisteria · 24/12/2007 14:45

As far as I know it is only anal glands which make them do this - if he's been treated for worms then he won't have them.

Try not to worry overly about the hygienic aspect; children's immune systems are fairly robust and they will become immune to any bacteria/ germs from the dog. My dd2 was a thumb sucker and she never became ill from anything

hercules1 · 24/12/2007 14:45

I appreciate that but you will end up with a unsocialed terrier and 2 toddlers on your hands. Optimum time for socialising is up to 12 weeks old. It is very unlikely it is worms and unlikely even if it is for one of your children to be blinded by them.

It is far more likely that they get bitten though. I dont mean to sound mean just trying to be realistic.

hercules1 · 24/12/2007 14:46

When of our puppies as I said had worms I was paranoid about my dd being blinded but the chances are so slim honestly.

mower · 24/12/2007 14:54

Thanks for all your messages, its only been for less than a week that he has had no contact with the children and he is about 14 weeks now, so hopefully he has been well socialised. So I will let him back into the house when the children are asleep, but think I will have a long way to go with convincing dh to have him in here when the children are awake. Luckily they have a two hour sleep during the day so I play with him then.

The vet told dh that to minimise contact with the children till he is at least 5 months old and any puppy worms have definately gone as can take a few treatments to work. So hopefully things will improve in the new year and we can all live as one happy house hold.

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hercules1 · 24/12/2007 14:57

Ahh, one week is fine. I have never heard of minimising contact with kids for this long. Personally for the reasons I aready stated I would have them mixing now. Our vet had no concerns when ours had actual worms with the kids. Just basic hygiene rules.
Very strange thing for a vet to say, I would speak to another vet.

Good luck.

mower · 24/12/2007 15:01

If we need to take him back in new year I will ask another vet.

Will put the point of them having contact with the children to my dh may help to get him back on side a bit!

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Wisteria · 24/12/2007 15:43

Sounds ridiculous advice from a vet tbh, never heard anyone say that (come from a veterinary family). Definitely agree you need a 2nd opinion - worms are not a big deal as long as your children wash their hands regularly, even if they do ingest some 'crap' it's unlikely to cause long term damage.

Puppies should be socialised with children as much as poss while young as it engenders the protective/ safe instinct.

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