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advise needed on toilet training my puppy!!!

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glaskham · 01/11/2007 12:50

i have just got a lovely little staffy puppy and we've named her Poppy, she is lovely and cute, sleeps a lot, eats a lot, gives cuddles, very playful.....but keeps weeing on my floor!!!!!

she has a crate in the living room (she is confined to only this room for the moment) and sleeps in there and if we go out we close the doors so she cant wee/poo all over the room.....anyway i'm having a hard time in paper training her, she will have 90% of her poos on the paper in her crate, but only wee's in there if she's closed in, she gets so exited and playful, and just squats and wee's!!!

taking her for her forst jabs tomorrow so she wont be able to got out still for a few weeks....hubby is getting some puppy training pads tonight but will they be any different for the dog than the paper? and once paper trained how do i take that to training outside?

thanks in advance!!

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LittleMissNorty · 01/11/2007 12:54

You need to take her outside very frequently (like at least every hour) and every time she does a wee you need to be over-enthusiastic and praise, praise, praise "what a GGGOOOOOODDDDD girl" etc....bit like toilet training toddlers really . If she likes her food, you can give her a little treat each time. Just ignore her if she wees indoors (don't tell her off).

They learn very quickly....then you'll have to get her to ask to go out!

Puppy pads are great as they don't smell as much

HTH

LittleMissNorty · 01/11/2007 12:56

Sorry also meant to say develop a phrase that she will learn to associate with going to the toliet (that you don't mind saying out in public)....ours is "Hurry up" and he knows that means go for a wee....I've also heard "be a good girl" or "weeeeeeee weeeeeeee" . When you're outside with her, repeat it to her constantly and give BIG cuddles when she does it!

flowerybeanbag · 01/11/2007 12:59

We did ours very quickly and successfully, hard work though. I basically spent all day with him, watching him, soon as any sign at all he might need to go, whisked him outside and made a HUGE fuss, treats etc, until he started wandering towards the back door himself and asking to go out.

Of course there were some accidents, but not actually that many tbh. It was hard work for me, literally spending all day watching him, but it was SO worth it, he was trained really quickly. I'd also take him outside as a matter of course whenever he woke up after a nap, and every hour at least anyway. Involved a lot of standing round outside waiting to catch the moment so I could make a big fuss.

Overnight he was shut in the utility room with a couple of puppy training pads at the end next to the door which he always used, we took these away once there had been a week or two with nothing overnight.

flowerybeanbag · 01/11/2007 12:59

Ooh yes, and have a word as well - we had 'quickly'

EmsMum · 01/11/2007 13:05

You shouldn't have the paper in the crate - dogs usually like to keep their sleeping area clean. The paper should be outside the crate. To start with pretty much paper the whole floor of the room and then reduce. Keep a bit of the wee'd on paper - put it where you do want her to wee. When you take her outside - which you can do from the outset, you don't have to get her paper trained before doing that - take some of the soiled paper out so she knows thats a good place for wee. And a lump of poo too!
Anywhere you don't want her to wee, make sure you clean and deodourise rigourously.

And of course, praise praise praise when she gets it right.

Good luck!

glaskham · 01/11/2007 13:06

so she's allowed to go outside for wee's and poo's before she's able to go for walks???

well no-one told me that!!! right i better start doing that now then!!!dont want to paper train her then have to start all over with house training her!!!

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flowerybeanbag · 01/11/2007 13:10

glaskham she mustn't come into contact with other dogs before jabs but outside for a wee would be fine. Do you not have a garden for her to go out in the meantime then?

glaskham · 01/11/2007 13:19

we have a very big garden, ready and waiting for her.....but having never had a puppy and the breeder just said she cant go out till she has had her 2nd jab....so i took that as she'd need to pee and poo on paper until she'd had the jabs and then have to house-train her to pee and poo outside after her jabs......i should have thought to ask earlier, i've been trying to keep her confined to the crate as much as possible in the hope she'd get the picture!!! as i have 2 under 3's so cant be watching her 24/7 worrying when she's going to wee next, but i am going to get her a little section in the garden where i want her to do all her 'duties' so its easier to clean for when the dc's want to play out in summer again!!.....better than playing hunt-the-poo in the grass!!! haha!!

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flowerybeanbag · 01/11/2007 13:25

No definitely outside as much as possible, the fewer 'mistakes' she makes indoors the better, then it just won't occur to her to go indoors.

If you want her to go in a particular place you can get smelly stick things to put somewhere which are supposed to encourage them. Didn't work for ours, he just thought it was something we kindly put there for him to chew and promptly went wherever in the garden!

Enjoy her!

BroccoliSpears · 01/11/2007 13:38

Another tip - when you catch her weeing inside, make a big enthusiastic hullabaloo and race outside with her immediately, then give her a fuss for being outside. This helped our dog to associate weeing = outside = good. She very soon started asking to go out to wee. We never once got even remotely cross about a wee in the house and she trained quickly and easily.

glaskham · 01/11/2007 13:48

we have been telling her off for weeing out of the 'assigned area' but i will make sure both hubby and i dont any more....have just taken her into the garden for 10mins and she just loved it, she had a wee and me and ds (nearly 3) both made a massive fuss out of it, i took her back to the same spot before we came in let her sniff where she'd peed before and mage a big fuss....think i've got my words 'go on then'....oh all this fresh air with my puppy is making me want to get her out for walks!!!!

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LittleMissNorty · 01/11/2007 14:45

takes me back two years...now I have a huge lazy labrador whose currently snoring in his basket but loves walks.....you can get the pup used to lead walking in the garden as well while you're waiting to go into the big outside world....and when jabs are done...socialise with as many people and dogs as possible. My vets run a puppy socialisation class for 4 weeks that you could take your pup to before fully vaccinated and my dog LOVED it and you get to cuddle lots of pups (we done pass the parcel with them )....ask your vet if there is anything like that in your area - the whole family can go.

glaskham · 01/11/2007 15:21

that class sound like lots of fun.....i want to get her well socialised with other dogs as i know staffies have a rep for not being such nice dogs, i want to prove wrong with my girl!!! she has so much love to give....wants to cuddle and play all the time!!

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EmsMum · 01/11/2007 17:38

We used to fence off the area outside the back door for our last dog to use - made life much easier when DD was small. even with this, do remember to worm regularly when theres small kids around - our vet recommended every other month.

Glad you and puppy are enjoying the 'great outdoors' - its good to get pup used to being out with you in the garden before you try walkies.

glaskham · 01/11/2007 18:39

well she was wormed the day we collected her (monday), and i'm taking her to the vets on friday and when i talked to the receptionist she said the vet will give me some to continue her on. we've made a new gate outside to give her a few metres down the side of the house, just outside the back door to do her bussiness.

and good news- we've had only 2 accidents in the house since i posted i'd taken her out, and she's had 3 wee's and a poo outside already!!!

WUHOO- go team 'poppy and gemma'!!!!

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glaskham · 03/11/2007 07:34

POPPY TRAINING UPDATE: well yesterday was day two (well day and a half) of housetraining poppy, and all day we only had 2 accidents.....and although she isn't letting me know she needs to go out yet she is holding on or something as within seconds of going into the garden she's doing her bussiness!!! i'm so happy.....its making the noise in the night much more bearable!!!

actually....she barks a bit during the night, ie she'll sleep for a few hours solid then whine for a few mins before i say ssssshhhhh from the top of the landing then she goes back to sleep for a few hours.....its like having a new baby having to get up in the night with her.....it is getting less and less each night with last night only having to get up twice with her, is it normal for her 'changing house'...'new routine'...'missing mummy'...'missing siblings'???? this is how i'm trying to justify it....and i'm feeling very tired after nearly a week of disturbed sleep, but if its going to stop soon i can cope!!!- someone please tell me it WILL stop soon!!!

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HaveYourselfaNortyLittleXmas · 03/11/2007 07:50

Yes it will stop....try giving her an old T-shirt of yours in her basket that smells of you....we ignored our lab one night (it was REALLY hard)...earplugs the lot.....and once he realised he wasn't getting any attention (he had a puppy pad in his crate) he was quiet at night. We did have a few early mornings for a while, and now he struggles to heave himself out of bed when I come down in the morning

Glad the toilet training is going well

HaveYourselfaNortyLittleXmas · 03/11/2007 07:52

btw its YOU she's missing during the night....she will miss her siblings etc but she also would rather sleep with you (but don't give in with this one or you'll never have your bed to yourself again)

glaskham · 03/11/2007 08:02

OMG- hubby said is it not us she's missing at night? and i shrugged it off as she cried the first night but barely knew us then so it cant be!!!will get an old tee for her bed tonight, she has a pad in her crate so can go on that in the night!! i want to ignore her crying like i did to get my kids sleeping through, but worry about her keeping the neighbours awake......though saying that they kept us up the other night breaking a back window cuz they'd locked themselves out- bunch of scruffs- phone a locksmith for god sake....or the landlord for the spare!!! wish i knew it was rented before i bought our house!!! GRRRR- but hey thats another thread altogether!!!

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HaveYourselfaNortyLittleXmas · 03/11/2007 08:07

She will miss the company of her siblings but she will develop an attachment to you pretty quickly....the fact that you can quieten her down just by talking shows this I think.

It is pretty hard to ignore them though

It is JUST like having a baby sometimes...you don't know the half of it yet ....it is good fun though......

Sounds like nice neightbours

glaskham · 03/11/2007 08:11

oh the best neighbours!!....NOT!!! often get her banging on the door mid-afternoon for the strangest reasons....once to ask if any of my two (2.10 and 18m) had a dummy she could have for her son who is in tear 1 at school!!! thats like 6years old??? FFS!!!!!

well i am happy enough that she's doing 90% of her duties outside....that will keep me sane enough to get through the nights till i can stand to ignore her!!

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