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Living the dogs outside at night.......................?

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jmg1 · 03/11/2005 10:00

We moved to Portugal 3 months ago, we have two dogs (age 8) that we bought with us from England. I am thinking of getting a Kennel and keeping them outdoors at night. During the coldest winter nights here, the temperature does not go down to 0'. All the local dogs live outsdide but they are used to it. Do you think our dogs are now too accustomed to living in the house or could they adapt to living oudside?

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MINNIE1 · 03/11/2005 16:06

I would give it a go..

Get a nice kennel and see how it goes. It wont be freezing so they should be fine.

jmg1 · 04/11/2005 11:28

Yeah guess they should be fine, they may be a bit hacked for a bit but dogs are outdoor animals anyway.

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Ellbell · 04/11/2005 22:38

Why do you want to keep your dogs outside at night, jmg1? Is there any reason for it (e.g. to stop them weeing in the house or something)? Or is it just because it's what everyone else does?

I'm sure your dogs would get used to living outside, as long as you make sure they are nice and warm. For a while, I lived in a shared house on a farm, where the farm dogs all lived outside at night. The farmer didn't feel that it was fair for my dog to stay in while his went out at night, so we literally filled the kennel with straw (because my little dog didn't have a very thick coat and was used to being in a centrally heated house) and within a few days he loved it. He used to stand by the door at 10.00 p.m. waiting to go to bed! He was about 6 or 7 at the time, so I don't see a problem for your 8-year-olds. Would your dogs have access to some outside space (e.g. a run) if they needed a wee in the night? Personally, I wouldn't be happy leaving them totally shut up. Nor would I let them have the freedom to roam around the whole garden (I'd be scared they try to get out).

Having said all that, if your dogs have lived happily in the house till now, I'd let them continue to do so. For me, my dogs are part of the (extended) family, and it would feel wrong to shut them outside. (It was different when we were temporarily part of someone else's 'family' on the farm, and we had to go along with their 'rules' then.) Mind you, I don't give my dogs free rein in my house either. They don't come upstairs ever, and overnight and if we are out they are shut in the (large) hall (with radio 4 on)!

Please don't take this the wrong way. I don't mean to be polemical. I don't think it's cruel to put dogs outside overnight. I just don't see why you'd choose to do so.

(V. envious of you living in Portugal. My toes are freezing sitting here now!)

jmg1 · 05/11/2005 09:48

Ellbell, Its not that hot here only 23' yesterday

My dogs are also a very nice part of the family but the bitch is doing wee's on a very nice rug and the dog (naturally) is marking his turf in the same area, he pee'd on the sorround sound proccessor which cost over £1000 and is not working anymore! past experience has shown that when they start weeing in a particular area it was very difficult to stop this. In the UK we used Child gates but this is not possible in our Villa here as it is more open plan.
Also my DS like to have his bedroom door open at night but the dog climbs on his bed this wakes him up, he gets up, makes a noise and before you know it we have 3 young kids up in the middle of the night (not my idea of a good laugh)
My toes are not cold! but broke my big toe on wednesday night playing footie

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Ellbell · 05/11/2005 16:28

Deffo get a kennel and plenty of straw (much warmer then dog-beds/blankets and you can easily change it if it gets a bit mucky), then! The dogs will soon get used to it, and they'll have one another, which will help. Our bitch started weeing on the carpet when our old dog died last year (she hated being on her own), and once they start it's so hard to break them of it. Luckily the carpet was old and horrible anyway, so it forced us to replace it with laminate (she won't wee on a hard surface) and that has solved the problem in our case (unless someone leaves the stairgate open and she gets upstairs).

Only 23 degrees, eh? Hope you're not expecting too much sympathy!?

CountessDracula · 05/11/2005 16:44

omg you moved to Portugal!

How are you?

jmg1 · 06/11/2005 18:35

cd, well thanks, been to the beach today not a cloud in the sky
then watched Man U Chelsea

how are you?

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CountessDracula · 06/11/2005 18:38

have flu

Wanted to watch ManU v Chelsea but was in massive traffic jam feeling like shite

So what made you choose portugal

(fwiw I would keep the dogs inside but i am soppy dog twit)

jmg1 · 07/11/2005 12:55

cd: flu? traffic jam? - what are these strange words?
I know words such as clear blue sky today, sunshine, beach and barbeque maybe we can translate for each other!

just an incy bit of sympathy?

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