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My por puppy was attacked, how do i stop it effecting him??

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lisad123isgoingcrazy · 24/07/2010 20:28

We went on a dog walk tonight with a group of people. We hadnt even started yet and all of us were just meeting in carpark when a big weimarnaer (sp?). His only 15 weeks labradoddle puppy and this dog wasnt just niping him to say hello, had him pinned to floor, biting his head, neck and face
Owner couldnt get dog off puppy but lucky DH was holding him and so got dog off. Blood all over carpark floor, me and car. Rushed to vet with DD1 crying her little heart out (his her puppy). He has punchare markd to face, and eyes and eyes or badly swollen. Vet said he'll be ok.

Im worried about how he will now be with other dogs? He is so gentle and friendly normally and loves other dogs, I dont want him to be unsocialable.

Also would you think its fair to ask owner of other dog to pay the £156 vet bill??

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Slubberdegullion · 25/07/2010 18:33

lisa how awful.

Glad to hear the owner is paying up. I hope she will muzzle her dog at all times when she takes him out, and not just 'if walking with other dogs' .

notjustapuppymum · 25/07/2010 19:56

You should definitely report to the local police. They will not necessarily be interested but they should keep a record of the owners details and the incident so that if anything else ever occurs there is a full log if you see what I mean?

I would also like to know as booyhoo said, what should you do in this situation? Get in between them or what?

lisad123isgoingcrazy · 25/07/2010 22:51

here has some ideas here

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booyhoo · 26/07/2010 00:16

ha, lisa i had been googling too and found that site. i thought it was good advice but something put me off. the author says at one point he/she is going to muzzle two of his dogs and let them go at it. also, he mentions a few times about dogs at his kennels attacking. i am just unsure of how good a source that really is. i could be totally wrong but the bit about letting two of his dogs attack (albeit with muzzles) doesn't sound good to me. is valhalla about to set me straight?

Vallhala · 26/07/2010 00:52

I think that they recommend Caesar Milan says it all!

Avoid would be my advice!

It's not a good idea to let two dogs go at it, muzzled or not, and will only breed fear and further aggression. That said, I can't see where it has said that this should be tried, haven't read it all but am replying quickly whilst trying to compose a mega long email too! Sorry!

I wholeheartedly agree though that bringing the nervous/attacked dog into controlled contact with submissive dogs is a good step. (Here I go again... in the rescue I help out at the owner will often take a previously attacked or dog-aggressive dog out to meet his own, trained dogs (stooge dogs is his word for it!). Here he is in total control and he KNOWS his own dogs and knows that SIT and STAY mean just that to them. The troubled dog will both feel no threat and has total trust in the rescue owner.

However, it must be said that this man has been working with dogs for eons, and takes no crap! He can BELLOW! And sometimes that's needed. It doesn't work for every dog - the GSD I'm fostering from them (and they ain't getting back cos I love him!) is one who doesn't respond well to such an approach and will run. But, many, most even, will find an odd comfort in the bellow of someone they trust, knowing as a result that this person is in comfortably and capably charge and they don't need to react.

As for taking a stick with you to deal with an attack or assumed attack and saying "If they do not grab the stick and do not back away, begin poking the dog with the stick. They will soon grow tired of being jabbed and retreat.", it's a fecking recipe for disaster, for both dog and owner.

Poke an aggressive dog with a stick?????

WTF????

Sorry, booyhoo, but I wouldn't recommend this advice. I am NOT an authority on anything dog, I just go by experience and am not a trainer or behaviouralist as I'm sure you're aware (I have a GSD who sings and dances on a lead when he sees another dog or my other dogs/DC are ahead of him, trust me, it's a work in progress... or not progressing very fast, tbh!), but I am learning all the while and have taken on board the training and advice I see and am given by not only the dogs I know in rescue but by those who have put in huge amounts of time, trouble and research into training their pet dogs and I can only say that I'm 100% certain that none of these people would recommend letting 2 dogs "go at it" or use a stick as described.

The only deviation from this is the "spat" between dogs as opposed to fight, when sometimes, if the dogs are not going to come to harm, it works to let them grump and sort their own pecking order out, but that's a far cry from letting a dog be attacked by another.

Am madly busy for the next couple of days but am going to ask around as to what others with more experience than I would do in the event of a dog attacking another.

Will let you know what is said.

HTH

booyhoo · 26/07/2010 00:58

i thought i recognised some cesar quotes in there!!

yes had to laugh at the idea of jabbing a stick at an angry dog. i know it would only make me angrier if i had a stick in my mouth.

booyhoo · 26/07/2010 01:02

i am trying to find the extended part of that which i read. it showed pictures of dog bites on people who had intervened in dog fights, this is where he said about letting his two dogs go at it with muzzles on.

booyhoo · 26/07/2010 01:09

oh i am so sorry i had googled and read a few links on the subject. i was getting that author confused with leerburg.com/dogfight.htmthis one

booyhoo · 26/07/2010 01:11

oops

here

lisad123isgoingcrazy · 26/07/2010 09:13

sorry, terrible link, didnt get chance toread it all though.
I would like to know what to do too really, short of kicking the dogs that about to eat my puppy!
Word of warning, dont get between dogs and cats, my friend recently got bitten by a cat whent he dog went for it and then spent 2 weeks in hospital with 3 ops, due to blood poisioning! Cat bites are the worse according to her doc

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MrsSnaplegs · 26/07/2010 09:47

From my limited experience (owner of Rhodesian Ridgeback, aged 7, docile female with submissive tendencies from being bitten by other dogs)

I would recommend Jan Fennel The Dog Listener

A link to her website here

www.janfennellthedoglistener.com/homepage.php

I have seen her programmes and used her methods with other dogs I have owned and looked after. Definately preferable to Mr Milan IMHO.

My dog has been attacked several times, all unprovoked. She is still friendly with other dogs if a little cautious, I keep her on a lead and halti and will not let her off until I have checked with other dog owner that their animal is ok. People get nervous of her as she is so big (although IME I find smaller dogs more aggressive) and if they do not know the breed often "assume" she has her hackles up because of her ridge. She is very enthusiastic and tends to "rush" to say hello which I think unnnerves other dogs hence why I now always check.

Sorry your puppy and DD have had to expeience this, I hope you get it resolved.

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