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High income child benefit charge

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clifden1974 · 05/12/2023 18:17

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/652076
Please take the time to sign this petition to get the high income child benefit tax abolished

Petition: Abolish the High Income Child Benefit Charge

We want the Government to remove the High Income Child Benefit Charge with immediate effect.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/652076

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AngryBirdsNoMore · 07/12/2023 14:00

TopicalNameChange · 07/12/2023 08:34

Bonkers suggestion! You really think the children of high earners need £21 a week in benefits so that they see themselves as equal to children from poorer households???

If you are a high earning household your kids are not equal to children in households claiming benefits. They are privileged. They are lucky. Why not teach your kids that??

Btw I agree that CB should be claimed according to household income and that the current system is shockingly discriminatory towards lone parents (women). I do not agree with universal monetary benefits

This.

And OP, the financial crisis wasn’t solved by the introduction of the HICB charge. It led to austerity which disproportionately affected the poor and drove - and continues to drive - many into poverty. Which does not include those earning £60k and above who are absolutely not in poverty.

AngryBirdsNoMore · 07/12/2023 14:02

Would it be nice to receive a free £2-3000 a year? Yeah, sure.

Would it be right for me to receive a free £2-3000 a year simply because I have kids, despite earning over £60k a year, at the expense of childless/childfree people who earn much less than me? No, OBVIOUSLY not.

jolies1 · 07/12/2023 15:23

BobBilby · 07/12/2023 07:05

In your example above OP with the SAHM and one high earner - that’s a choice. If that couple needed more money the wife could up her hours. Whereas two people earning full time £49k each are unlikely to be able to increase earning. I appreciate households where there is only one working is different but I hear this argument all the time with this benefit - 2 workers earning £49 k each versus one earning £60.

I do agree to a point but there’s lots that fall through the gap. Eg right now I’m on SMP as employer doesn’t pay any additional maternity pay. So our household income is drastically reduced. (Partner earns £55k). When I go back to work I’m on £33k - full time. I don’t dispute that we are on good wages but we have a household income of £88k - however we could both earn £49k (£98k) and get the full amount of child benefit??

Interestingly both sets of parents have a far better pension income than I have full time wage and get their winter fuel allowance every year because they were born before 1957.

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clifden1974 · 07/12/2023 15:28

AngryBirdsNoMore · 07/12/2023 14:02

Would it be nice to receive a free £2-3000 a year? Yeah, sure.

Would it be right for me to receive a free £2-3000 a year simply because I have kids, despite earning over £60k a year, at the expense of childless/childfree people who earn much less than me? No, OBVIOUSLY not.

As mentioned before the decision of what you personally decide to do with the payments would be your decision.

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GreenIsMyFavoriteColour · 07/12/2023 15:38

Signed.

A household with two incomes earning 100k pay none of it back. A household with one income earning 60k pay 100pc back.

It's effectively massive charge against SAHMs.

Spacecowboys · 07/12/2023 15:50

AngryBirdsNoMore · 07/12/2023 14:02

Would it be nice to receive a free £2-3000 a year? Yeah, sure.

Would it be right for me to receive a free £2-3000 a year simply because I have kids, despite earning over £60k a year, at the expense of childless/childfree people who earn much less than me? No, OBVIOUSLY not.

I think the same could be said for the provision of child benefit in general though. Childless couples are also paying for the child benefit of those parents earning 40k each aren’t they ?

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clifden1974 · 07/12/2023 16:40

People without children.so born while child benefit was a universal benefit would have received this benefit (or their parents would have ) so they are simply paying it forward .
Just like the children of the last decade will be the tax payers of tomorrow.
That's the thing with a functioning society it's generational

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