Social Services

[janbe45]

With recent news to keep a child safe, I believe Social Services visits should be unannounced, so they can see what is really going on with the child that has found themselves in a step-parent family, or ''Even a weekend family, as seems to be happening pretty frequent now, ''These children are not in a normal family not been highlighted enough, ''But Since Arthur's Abuse and Murder, with his Father keeping him prisoner, with his weekend girlfriend/ Media, tried to Call Her ''Arthur's Step Mother which I think was an Insult to that little boy'' But He was singled out for this abuse, how can these children be protected,

These children have no Protection and Social Services get Paid to Protect Children, but Very Rarely do, and Do not Remove the children as he should have Been Removed When The visit Took Place There was enough Evidence to do this

Since Arthur had a visit from 2 social workers, But because the house was staged because the visit was announced. The Father and his Girlfriend Manipulated the situation, Well if he had an unannounced visit the story may have been different and he may have been saved, Changes Need to Happen To stop this Abuse from going Undetected Before another Abuse and Murder is Allowed to Happen!! (So Many Chances To have Saved that Little Boy)

Please click the Link Below to Sign the Petition
Thank you

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I don't think it would make much difference because even unannounced visits can be refused. No one has to let a social worker into their house if they don't want to. Also, people who are doing nothing wrong could perhaps feel that it is very intrusive.

Why is this only in relation to children from separated parents? Abuse can happen in any family.

Do you mean if social services are involved then visits should be unannounced or social services should make unannounced visits to ANY family where the parents aren't together and there is a step parent involvement

I don’t know what this petition is trying to do?
Social workers do unannounced visits when children are on a child protection plan, which means the threshold has to be met at a multi-agency conference.
They do not have the power to undertake unannounced visits at other times.
Theres no point in lobbying social workers. It’s the law that you need to be pushing to change, as well as the resources.

Yes if they are Involved, They should make unannounced Visits, Please Sign The Petition to Make This Happen Thank You

Is this true in the U.K.? My DSS is on a child in need plan and the social workers do unannounced visits.

It should be. Child in need plans are voluntary and when I was front line I needed consent to visit, which meant arranging the visits in advance.

They are not doing Unannounced visits when they should do, that is what the petition is trying to do, Change What they would normally do, as soon as they get a Referral they should do an Unannounced Visit, to see what is going on,

They should not let the Parents/Carers or Weekend Parents Whatever they like to call themselves, set the stage, at the Very start of getting the Referral, as they already lost the Control of the Situation.

[eyeroll]

yeah, we just sit around on our arses 'rarely protecting' children and collecting our big fat salary of £32k a year. Less if you are newly qualified.

if you can find a petition for the government to fund crystal balls for all social workers I will sign it.

I'll compromise on signing one for a shit tonne of money to reopen children centres and properly fund home start and commit to continue to do so for the next 2/3 generations.

can I suggest you add critical thinking courses to your Christmas list?

That's slightly unfair to call people "weekend parents". It's usually not through choice. If social are going to do unannounced visits then it needs to be on the resident parent too as they can just as easily abuse children and children as the non-resident parent.

That is ''Not the same as what this about these are different situations

Anyone else curious About the weird Use of capital letters?

Anyway we’re apparently not a normal family, so I can only assume the OP would rather we didn’t sign.

OP to be honest you sound completely clueless, your posts are inarticulate and your petition is a complete waste of time and not the way to go about improving anything for vulnerable children.

You have no understanding of the work social services do, or if the legal powers they have.

It's not just focused on separated children, it's all children who find themselves in abused situations, where they have no protection these children can find themselves in these situations without pretty much any warning, it seems but if you sign the petition it will hopefully enforce the government to do more about these children getting some form of protection,

''You may think these are isolated cases but Surely one child is one too many, I can not bare the thought of another child being abused and murdered and so many times they could have been saved, If certain rules were changed,

There seem to be no follow-up reports made either, and No reports taken about the (Newly Formed Family) in General, ''The reason I'm saying this is they would have known what sort of situation they were dealing with, If Proper Questions were asked, ''But they really had no clue!!

''They can not do the job correctly if they don't have anything to go on, and Only the Carers/Parents are listened to, not what is best for the child, Any case should not be closed without having a medical professional on hand, ''So the child can be thoroughly checked for any bruises or any other injuries that a social worker will not know about, ''

This should be another part of the change I believe should be put in place Although, The Petition focuses on Doing Unannounced Visits at the start of a REFFERAL, ''Not when the child has been put on a Protection plan as a Parent can Refuse this, And then The child Still has No Protection, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE PETITION? Maybe it will Be Clearer!

That is why there is never any change because there are too many people that are always thinking of themselves, in some sort of category, just think of the children you would be protecting, ''I understand there are many situations and that is why a lot of the abuse seems to go on undetected because there are so many people that would rather do nothing,

''So nothing changes and Social Services don't change any way of doing anything ''Wasn't there supposed to be a Review this year, but it was all mainly related to families Issues ''Not really about Protecting children that's why abuse is still going on more than it should be,

''Maybe this is more about children who find themselves in a (Step Parent Family) So what Protection Do they Have Basically None if They are Singled Out, And We are Talking about Children that Have Been Referred to Social Services!!

It’s definitely not clearer.

They can and do make unannounced visits.

Think of the children you are harming too. Enforced medical examination with no actual evidence of need?

THIS.