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Offer saliva covid tests for children instead of invasive nasal swabs

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Clarkey86 · 10/10/2021 09:12

Our children have been forgotten in this pandemic and putting them through invasive nasal swabs, as any parent of a young child will know, can be traumatic.

I just know:

a) How many children are now terrified of a PCR swab every time they start to get a cold, including my DD who sneezes and instantly goes “Do I need to have a nose test?”. It then requires 2 people to physically restrain her in the back of a car while she begs “Please don’t”. It’s horrible and the winter is going to be very challenging.
b) Many parents are now just refusing to put their child through it, potentially increasing the amount of undiagnosed covid in society and in schools and putting the wider community at increased risk.

Click this link to sign the petition:
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/598824/sponsors/new?token=iVBsQazKj3IraRITA4gD

My petition:

Offer non-invasive saliva covid tests for children instead of nasal swabs

Non-invasive saliva tests have been available for a while and can be purchased privately for a fee. Please offer the option of saliva testing for coronavirus instead of the invasive nasal swab for young children and those older that require it. More children would then be tested.

Saliva tests are available and can be purchased for a fee of around £89. Young children (and some older children/adults) can find invasive swabbing traumatic. Parents are less likely to take their children for a PCR nasal swab as children can find it traumatic and consequently they (particularly when alone) can find it challenging to get an accurate swab. More children would be tested resulting in less traumatic experiences for them and more accurate results to protect the wider population.

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manywildhorses · 10/10/2021 09:21

I agree although my dc have not had one yet, luckily. They need to take a 2 day test in a few weeks as we’re going on holiday but at least they will have had a holiday out of it!

I’m guessing you don’t actually test your dd every time she has a cold or sneezes as those aren’t covid symptoms? We’ve been fortunate that our dc haven’t had any of the 3 symptoms required to test although I do have friends who regularly test their dc when seeing relatives or cough a few times. Good on them for being conscientious but I wouldn’t be doing that.

Clarkey86 · 10/10/2021 09:41

I don’t, but every time she gets a cold she gets a fairly persistent cough from a post-nasal drip.

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AlexaShutUp · 10/10/2021 09:43

How accurate are the saliva swabs in relation to pcr tests?

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams · 10/10/2021 09:45

It's still a PCR test — it's just a different way of collecting a sample.

AlexaShutUp · 10/10/2021 09:47

@PolkadotsAndMoonbeams

It's still a PCR test — it's just a different way of collecting a sample.
Thank you for clarifying that.

So how accurate are the saliva swabs in comparison to the throat/nasal swabs currently required for the pcr?

Fallagain · 10/10/2021 09:48

How accurate are they?
What is cost difference?

Clarkey86 · 10/10/2021 10:00

They’re £89 privately and recognised by the government.

They say they are near 100% accurate. I would argue that even if they are less accurate than nasal swabs on paper, the accuracy would be outweighed in children who are incredibly hard to accurately swab anyway.

www.haloverify.com/buy-tests/

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Clarkey86 · 10/10/2021 10:02

www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-82787-z

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FetchezLaVache · 10/10/2021 10:08

Signed. My son has autism and although he tried really hard, he couldn't physically tolerate the swab and therefore he's never been tested, even though he's now at secondary.

I don't know where you get £89 per test from - I've found them online for far, far less than that, which makes the cost argument nonsensical, really.

SnugKnights · 10/10/2021 10:25

Signed. I agree it’s a bit of a nightmare testing very small children or children with SN.

SnugKnights · 10/10/2021 10:27

@FetchezLaVache

Signed. My son has autism and although he tried really hard, he couldn't physically tolerate the swab and therefore he's never been tested, even though he's now at secondary.

I don't know where you get £89 per test from - I've found them online for far, far less than that, which makes the cost argument nonsensical, really.

That link is for lateral flow tests that use a nasal swab. The same ones the government give out for free.
Clarkey86 · 10/10/2021 10:29

The £89 is for the Halo tests linked above. The £12.99 ones are nasal swabs.

I posted this a little early folks - it hasn’t been verified yet so will cap signatures at 21. It’s the first time I’ve started a petition so didn’t realise it went through this stage first.

However, if it is verified as a valid petition I will come back and re-post so others can sign if they wish.

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INeedNewShoes · 10/10/2021 10:32

I've signed it.

Thank you OP for setting this up.

DD gets a temperature every time she gets a cold so PCRs are looking set to be a regular part of our lives.

She's slightly more willing to let me do it now but still gets very upset and on previous occasions it has been absolutely awful.

I know lots of parents who haven't bothered testing when their DC have had a temperature because it was only fleeting and they weren't willing to put them through the PCR. I don't agree with this but I do understand it.

FetchezLaVache · 10/10/2021 10:34

@SnugKnights, ah poo!!! My mistake. I haven't had my coffee yet!

adoreyou · 10/10/2021 10:36

Signed!
Good luck 🤞🏻

CookPassBabtridge · 10/10/2021 11:10

I hate giving them too. However we had one done at hospital before an op my little one had, and I was dreading it.. but the nurse literally stuck it a little bit in our noses for a second. But when we do it we have to do 10 turns and put it in until we feel resistance?

Clarkey86 · 10/10/2021 11:29

@CookPassBabtridge I’m still unsure about this too! I’ve seen so many different guide videos and read the instructions etc and they all seem different.

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CookPassBabtridge · 10/10/2021 11:38

Same.. it doesn't seem right that we have to be barbaric but then the nurse literally tickled the lower inside of his nose for a second! And a second on the tonsils. Maybe their tests are more sensitive?

Clarkey86 · 12/10/2021 15:28

Hi everyone

I asked mumsnet to take this down temporarily while it was verified as it was capping signatures at 21, but it’s been verified now so sign and share away! :)

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Clarkey86 · 14/10/2021 21:47

Shameless bump and asking people to share if they have signed and agree. I can only get so many signatures from my own network and need proper to share widely!

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