Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Petitions and activism

To ask you to consider signing this petition re working parents and lockdown

39 replies

MrsMcGLong · 12/01/2021 20:50

I’ve made a petition – will you sign it?

Click this link to sign the petition:
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/569802/sponsors/new?token=VT-ZgcMbp2qQ73p6Xpnh

My petition:

Provide more help to working parents during lockdown

Consider opening up furlough to one parent per family with kids under 10 (or 16 with special needs) where school/ nursery is closed. This should be at parents discretion: not employers. Legislation put in place to protect parents from losing jobs due to childcare issues caused by COVID

During the pandemic, many families are trying to juggle working (either from home or otherwise ) and homeschooling with no childcare. This is having a severe impact on mental health of families, and particularly impacts women who in general take on the larger load of childcare responsibilities

Click this link to sign the petition:
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/569802/sponsors/new?token=VT-ZgcMbp2qQ73p6Xpnh

OP posts:
KihoBebiluPute · 13/01/2021 04:06

It can't be signed at the moment as it needs to go through approval. Wait a few days and then start publicising it once it is actually possible to sign it.

Sinful8 · 13/01/2021 04:20

"This should be at parents discretion: not employers. "

Nope thats a bloody stupid idea and will kill companies and force people who didn't have kids they couldn't afford out of work.

Peppafrig · 13/01/2021 05:09

I think they should consider opening up furlough to all primary aged children I don’t know why you think only under 10?

araiwa · 13/01/2021 05:34

No way

It's a joke isn't it?

Waxonwaxoff0 · 13/01/2021 05:44

I understand how tough it is (I'm a working parent of a 7 year old) but I don't think this would work. Who is going to do the work while the parents are furloughed? The people without children/older children will have to take on extra work and that's not fair.

CiderJolly · 13/01/2021 05:48

I get it, it’s tough. I have 3 children, 8, 11 and 12. For the record they all need me to support their learning in different ways and they’re all losing out because I’m working from home full time.

But, my job isn’t important too and we are just trying our best. It wouldn’t be fair on my colleagues or customers if all parents of primary aged children were furloughed.

CiderJolly · 13/01/2021 05:49

That was supposed to say my job is important.

Worstyear2020 · 13/01/2021 06:25

My work certainly will need to hire another person if they are forced to furlough me. I fear to think what could happen after.

motherrunner · 13/01/2021 06:27

DH and I teachers - would this mean one of us can be furloughed? Yes please!

worriedandannoyed · 13/01/2021 06:31

This is very odd. It sounds like someone who's very bitter they haven't been furloughed when others have been. It's hard. We all get that but this isn't the solution

TheReluctantPhoenix · 13/01/2021 06:36

It is a ridiculous idea.

Schools need to provide workable online education, including live lessons.

Parents need to accept that they will be juggling childcare and work and be exhausted for a while.

Employers need to be flexible with deadlines and supportive of employees with children.

If we all work together, we will easily get through this. If each group pursues its own agenda entirely selfishly and is not prepared to make any sacrifices, we will really struggle.

People’s lack of resilience in the face of Covid is quite scary. We can all cope as long as things go swimmingly. Any challenge and society seems to fissure.

FunnyInjury · 13/01/2021 06:48

Putting the decision in the hands of employees rather than employers is like forcing a tax on some businesses but not others so is therefore totally unfair 🤷‍♀️

Government would need to totally cover the cost and pay additional compensation (as with SMP for small businesses)

Many smaller firms are already struggling. £1300 per month of lockdown in premises grants and 80% wages only (nothing for NI and pension costs) does not go far when you have fixed overheads.

It's the smaller places going to the wall atm. The committee run social clubs, the wet-led free house pubs, the salons who pay 3 or 4 stylists with a couple of juniors. The cafe on the corner run by a charity, where the actual cafe staff are all in the vulnerable group but there is no extra help for the charity to maintain the premises so now it will be closed for good.

WFH parents are not even high on my list of people needing extra help. At least they still have jobs!

Blessex · 13/01/2021 06:50

Omg where is all the money coming from to do this ? That gives me more anxiety than working from home and home schooling my kids and I have no partner here to help.

Tanaria · 13/01/2021 06:55

I don't know what the answer is, but it's not that.

Every single parent household would be eligible. For me, I'd have to be furloughed one week on, one week off (children are here EOW), and I suppose that type of arrangement is now fairly common - admin nightmare. Can you imagine how many essential key workers who can still wfh this would potentially take out of action?

As for this post:
Schools need to provide workable online education, including live lessons.
Schools are already being forced to go above and beyond. What is workable for one child is not for another and online differentiation is incredibly limited. Many schools are offering live lessons, but, again, these don't work for everyone. In ours, there are a number of students working mornings close to school rather than home to be able to walk straight from work to school. Others have to share laptops with siblings, but have entirely different live lessons. Many others are young carers who now don't even have respite from this while at school.

Parents need to accept that they will be juggling childcare and work and be exhausted for a while.
I mostly agree with this. I teach live lessons while still getting my children (reception to mid-secondary school age) to do their work. It is possible, but requires some planning ahead. You have to train and enforce some independence, work out a schedule, which enables you to be "on" and "off" in reasonable intervals.

Employers need to be flexible with deadlines and supportive of employees with children. My work are shit with that and many others will be, too. Parents essentially got told, tough, this is what we're doing, roll with it or find a different job.

If we all work together, we will easily get through this. If each group pursues its own agenda entirely selfishly and is not prepared to make any sacrifices, we will really struggle. People’s lack of resilience in the face of Covid is quite scary. We can all cope as long as things go swimmingly. Any challenge and society seems to fissure.
Apart from the "easily", yes, agreed. It's bloody hard. But I have noticed that many people are incredibly whingy about some of the rules.

I do see it as an opportunity to train ourselves and our children to become more self-sufficient. Maybe it will curb the expectation that someone else will solve all of our problems and force people to see themselves as strong enough to cope and figure out their own solutions. Maybe it will encourage parents to let their children have more responsibility for themselves, grow up independently and actually learn some life skills in this. It's an ooportunity,

I can dream Grin

Hairyfairy01 · 13/01/2021 06:55

So either myself or my dh can be at home? Excellent expect we are both front line workers in the NHS, so I'm not sure our managers would be too happy, not to mention the patients.

peak2021 · 13/01/2021 06:56

This government will not want to do anything that restricts the possibility of employers firing people. It's part of the reason the ERG and others in the Tory party supported Brexit.

lemonsaretheonlyfruit · 13/01/2021 07:02

Sorry I don't agree either. I do agree abs accept that this is very hard on us all but as others have said, where is this going to come from?
I'm a single parent working full time and trying to home school my 2 DC, 1 of whom has special needs and I still don't agree with you.
2 parents in the house sounds like a breeze (relatively). This situation would not be on my priority list to help.
I do think you'll get plenty of support on your petition from people in your situation who think they have it hard. I'm not saying that it's not hard, but so many more people have it much harder than you and in my opinion are far more worthy of support.

Brefugee · 13/01/2021 07:03

This should be at parents discretion: not employers.

If your aim is to put employers off taking anyone on with children (and let's take a punt at who would suffer from that the most) then have at it.

Also what is it with so many parents that they think that they are the only ones with difficult caring responsibilities?

daisypond · 13/01/2021 07:03

Putting people on furlough is a terrible idea - they are likely to lose their jobs permanently.

NothingIsWrong · 13/01/2021 07:06

If you make it parents choice, no one will hire women with children ever again.

Also a vast number of us work in the public sector, me included, and are not eligible for furlough. My husband is self employed and also can't do furlough. We are really not unique.

DressingGownofDoom · 13/01/2021 07:09

@Sinful8

"This should be at parents discretion: not employers. "

Nope thats a bloody stupid idea and will kill companies and force people who didn't have kids they couldn't afford out of work.

Yeah those idiots who have kids they can't afford should have seen and planned for a global pandemic devastating the economy Biscuit

Thisyearcandoone · 13/01/2021 07:09

Hmmmmm, I wonder how many vital frontline workers have a child at home? Let's furlough them all eh?

LadyPenelope68 · 13/01/2021 07:09

Sorry but it’s ridiculous. You can’t have furlough at the discretion of the parents, otherwise you could have whole Companies or huge parts if Companies (possibly full of critical/key workers) who wouldn’t be able to function and even close down, which would have a massive impact on parts of the country, not to mention making others in the Company redundant.

MummyMummy01 · 13/01/2021 07:10

So fannny next to me at work gets furlough I Have to cover her work and end up doing a lot more hours into evening as well as all day a lot more stress so she is not stressed and her kids are good. Meanwhile my 12 and 14 years old suffer badly. If they are working it's because the company are working. No.

NeedingCoffee · 13/01/2021 07:11

As an employer my no1 aim is to have a viable business at the end of this, including the flexible employment it provides to my team, all mothers of school aged children. Where on earth would I get replacement professionally skilled people if something like this was put in place. Answer, I wouldn’t. So our clients would have to go elsewhere. Ok and behold, no jobs after this all ends. Sorry OP, but you haven’t thought it through.