Petition to stop Tier 4 schools opening.

[LastChristmas20]

If you feel the same as me and are worried about the children spreading this new strain.

Please sign.

petition.parliament.uk/signatures/100564226/signed

For my kids I trust the school to take the right action as needed. They have reduced contacts between teachers and pupils. They have communicated well with regards to actions taken.

There would be no benefit to the wider community if the school was shut. Where we live it’s not a source of infection.

I wish every petition had a section for not agreeing.

And was in the petition section.

OP, you can deregister your child.

@ConiferGate I agree. Tier 4 teacher AND PARENT here

Hi all, we're moving this thread over to our Petitions Noticeboard which is the only part of the site where we allow petitions to be posted.

Keeping schools open will mean far more covid deaths in the UK. Many parents will push for schools to stay open and we will all have to see far higher deaths as a result if they are successful.

I am concerned about both my own children and children in general - but it is wilful ignorance to ignore the impact of escalating infections in the weeks ahead.

Sometimes we have to face hard truths.

Tier 4 here. Dds school, secondary has remained open the entire time. One set of 30 had to isolate.
There are no easy choices. Depriving teens of crucial years education should be the last resort. She has already missed a chunk of year 7. And bollocks will there be catch up programmes.

@inquietant I completely agree.

@inquietant totally agree.

Can I take my kids off to the houses of anyone above who signs this? Given both of us have to work ft, I can't really leave them alone in the house.

Not signing. Significant MH issues (including suicide attempts) among DD's (secondary age) cohort now due to previous closures. Get all school staff, university staff vaccinated as a priority and the rest of us carry on minimising contact/taking care/shielding the vulnerable until the rest of the vaccine program is rolled out. Long before further school closures are considered, essential shops need to be stricter about one person per household admission and only sell absolute essentials.

I won’t be signing either. I feel children have made enough sacrifices for a disease that doesn’t greatly affect them.
I do however have sympathies for teachers who are more vulnerable who have to carry on working and for children living with parents who are vulnerable. There should be more understanding of how difficult that must be.

No. Our children deserve an education.

@MandosHatHair

Deregister your own DCs if you are able to educate them at home. My tier 4 area school has not had a single case.

Exactly this.

My eldest is missing out on extremely crucial early years education if schools close again. Can't believe so many are willing to throw away their children's education and mental health.

Sorry not signing it

T4 schools will close until Feb.

T4 schools will close until Feb

Source please.

Not signing this either

It's not a new strain, it's one of many variants of the same strain. Although it seems it may spread more readily, there is no information whether there is any difference in disease/morbidity/mortality.
There is a very good podcast from an eminent professor and virologist, called This Week in Virology' - or TWiV - if you Google it - that gives a useful overview, if you're interested.

No. Absolutely not. Kids mental health and education is more important. As is my mental health

They'll just hang out round mates houses and parks etc

Get a grip. It's getting silly now

Look up WHO guidance on how to care for a family member with Covid19 also, so you know how to look after them and reduce risk of other family members catching it too. That would be more useful.

Our schools have done a brilliant job all year at managing year bubbles, with only isolated cases popping up here and there which have likely been acquired outside of school - and I trust them to carry on that way. You have to accept that you may not be able to avoid it forever, and take steps to prepare for managing it.

@DoubleTweenQueen statistically it’s more dangerous to have a strain that spreads faster than one that causes more severe disease.

twitter.com/adamjkucharski/status/1343567425107881986?s=21

I am aware of this stats, however viruses and their biology/epidemiology are very complex. And it's not a strain, it's a variant - unless a change in phenotype is seen

I’m in a tier 4 area but absolutely do not want schools closing again. I barely made it through the first lockdown with my sanity, I can’t do it again; especially in winter when we can’t go to the beach / in the garden / for a nice long walk.

Talk about make everyone miserable and depressed.

@DoubleTweenQueen thanks for the correction (not being sarky!), I’m just pointing out that with cases rising at this rate, added severity would be less of a concern than added prevalence. If it was both we would be in real trouble.

I guess my question to people really is when is enough enough? How do you measure it? Do you just keep sending kids in and out and in and out until they’ve all got it and even more people are dead or suffer long term consequences?