Petitions and activism
To think this is another reason to ban fireworks?
mrsmrt1981 · 09/11/2020 13:12
Sorry for another post about fireworks but I just saw this..
www.thesun.co.uk/news/13144659/family-kitten-leg-blown-off-firework/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebarweb
This is the third cat this year (that’s been reported). There was also a wild rabbit in Ireland that died a horrific death after having a firework strapped to it. Oh and let’s not forget the house fire in Hull started by fireworks where two cats and a dog died.
It’s horrific. Surely enough is enough. It happens every year. Last year it’s happened to a poor cat in Blackpool. The public clearly cannot be trusted. Obviously I would like these monsters removed from society but until then can you help by supporting the ban?
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/319891
cologne4711 · 09/11/2020 13:22
I agree. Also there was a house went on fire in Scotland when a firework hit the roof.
Wotsitsarecheesy · 09/11/2020 13:28
No OP. Look at how much knife crime there is. Do you want to ban all knife sales? There are some horrible, nasty, sadistic people out there. In these instances they used fireworks to hurt or kill an animal. If it wasn't a firework they would probably use something else. Last year in the UK there were nearly 1,500 prosecutions for animal cruelty, and that's probably the tip of the iceberg. You can't remove every tool that these people might use to cause distress/suffering - and not just to animals. Fireworks are just one thing out of many that can be used properly for a positive reason, or misused for somthing terrible. I would absolutley support limiting the noisy powerful fireworks to people who are licenced, but I don't think a blanket ban is the answer when most people use them sensibly.
farandfew · 09/11/2020 13:31
@Wotsitsarecheesy I see your point but knives are essential tools, fireworks are not essential. I would support licensing and organised displays only.
Dillydallyingthrough · 09/11/2020 13:34
I'm not a massive fan of fireworks, but don't agree with banning them. The individuals responsible need to be punished not every other person who enjoys fireworks at home. With your argument all knives sales should be banned (stabbings), anything sharp because you will have always have people who use the object in a violent way or matches (arson). There is a high number of people who would have bought and used fireworks safely, they shouldn't be punished because a violent few.
YawnyOwl · 09/11/2020 13:34
@Wotsitsarecheesy
Well said
ThatDamnScientist · 09/11/2020 13:35
I can't sign that petition, I go to sign that petition and it says it has already been debated and the government rejected limiting the sale as they felt it wasn't appropriate.
Chemenger · 09/11/2020 13:36
A horse lost his eye in Aberdeenshire. There is just no need for fireworks to be sold to the public. You can still enjoy fireworks in public displays.
gubbbbbddaaaa · 09/11/2020 13:39
We should ban some humans ! What is wiring with some people !
whoareyouIwonder · 09/11/2020 13:39
@Wotsitsarecheesy
Bravo!
mrsmrt1981 · 09/11/2020 13:47
@Wotsitsarecheesy
‘If it wasn't a firework they would probably use something else.’
I don’t believe it is a coincidence that this happens every November. You seldom hear about it in March. Why is that? Because they are easy to access during this time period, and this encourages the sick and evil people in our society to come out full force. Simply put, if they were not available to the public to purchase then they wouldn’t end up tied to animals full stop. People could still enjoy fireworks at organised and licensed displays!
Having an explosive strapped to you and being blown up is a horrid way to die and I can imagine those poor animals were so so scared. It’s not your typical animal cruel case which tends to be more neglect based.
Also I don’t understand comparing banning knives to banning fireworks. Fireworks aren’t a necessity, nor do they have a functional purpose. Plus the petition would still allow for organised displays so it’s not introducing a blanket ban, it is introducing restrictions. We already have restrictions in place regarding sharps (e.g, not carrying knives in public). I don’t understand how anyone would be against such restrictions if it prevents someone’s precious companion being blown up. I suspect the owners are also massively traumatised as well as the animal (the one that survived). Have a heart please.
whoareyouIwonder · 09/11/2020 13:55
@mrsmrt1981
But where does it end?
Do we ban houses and only build bungalows because stairs are a risk?
Do we ban cars because people can still walk to places?
Do we ban sausages because they are a choking hazard?
unicornpower · 09/11/2020 14:00
Not to mention the fireworks fired at police and subsequently the RSPCA hospital in London. Yes in the right hands they're fine, but they're too easy to buy and let off by the wrong hands.
They were being let off in the field adjacent to a farmers field by us on Saturday night, I think he takes his cows inside from October luckily but they were kids who weren't anchoring them into the ground properly. We walked our dog over there on Sunday and there was firework remnants and boxes littered everywhere and loads of the grass all burnt and blackened.
I'm all for organised displays but too many animals are getting harmed by them when idiots get hold of them. Did that horse lose its eye instead of being PTS @Chemenger? There was a gofundme set up wasn't there or was that a different horse?
mrsmrt1981 · 09/11/2020 14:01
[quote ariettesmall]@mrsmrt1981
But where does it end?
Do we ban houses and only build bungalows because stairs are a risk?
Do we ban cars because people can still walk to places?
Do we ban sausages because they are a choking hazard?
[/quote]
It ends at banning fireworks to sale to the general public because we don’t need them. They have no fictional purpose. If it prevents one more animal from being strapped to a rocket and blown up then that is more than worth it in my opinion.
WhatATimeToBeAlive · 09/11/2020 14:07
[quote ariettesmall]@mrsmrt1981
But where does it end?
Do we ban houses and only build bungalows because stairs are a risk?
Do we ban cars because people can still walk to places?
Do we ban sausages because they are a choking hazard?
[/quote]
That's a ridiculous comparison. No-one is strapping a sausage to an animal and setting light to it. Accidents happen, however these are deliberately malicious and cruel acts.
Ban them I say. If they weren't already legal, I cannot imagine that anyone would think they were a good idea if you tried to introduce them in today's society.
DazedandConcerned · 09/11/2020 14:16
Signed.
Idiots were firing them off very low over our house on Saturday night shaking our houses. My neighbour went outside and threatened to shove one up their arses and light it if they didn't stop. Was very very unsafe.
The biggest issue with fireworks is that people mingle them with alcohol. They should only be in the hands of licensed experts or their explosive power downgraded to such a level as they are harmless and much quieter.
whoareyouIwonder · 09/11/2020 15:17
@WhatATimeToBeAlive
You know exactly the type of comparison I was making, so please try not to play too stupid.
mrsmrt1981 · 09/11/2020 16:02
[quote ariettesmall]@WhatATimeToBeAlive
You know exactly the type of comparison I was making, so please try not to play too stupid. [/quote]
Don’t make stupid comparisons if you don’t want stupid responses. 🤷🏼♀️
farandfew · 09/11/2020 16:56
It's possible to disagree without calling each other stupid you know. Ffs
Mookie81 · 09/11/2020 17:17
@farandfew
Doesn't seem to be anymore.
And the posters above are probably grown women with kids to set examples to and can't even behave appropriately online themselves
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whoareyouIwonder · 09/11/2020 19:27
@farandfew
I never called anyone stupid😊
whoareyouIwonder · 09/11/2020 19:28
@Mookie81
Ahhh yes, because 'for fuck sake' is also a great example to teach your children.
godmum56 · 10/11/2020 09:45
the debate mentioned is the 2019 one. There has been a debate this year secured by the 2019/2020 petition and the new petition will run 2020/2021 to be considered for debate in 2021.
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