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To ask you to please help these 2 little girls stay in the UK, they face FGM in Nigeria

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Topaz25 · 22/04/2014 21:18

This petition really moved me, please sign and share:
www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/uk-border-agency-please-review-the-fresh-evidence-submitted-for-afusat-saliu-s-asylum-case-properly

"Afusat Saliu, faces being returned to Nigeria. She has removal directions for 25th April. If she goes back, there is a real risk of forcible FGM on her daughters. She fled to the UK when her step-mother expressed a wish to have her daughter Bassy cut. Bassy will be four in May; two year old Rashidat was born in London - Afusat fled while she was heavily pregnant.

In Afusat's village, FGM is usually performed on babies, which is when Afusat herself was cut. If she is made to return and her family catch up with her, it is likely that she will be powerless to protect them from being mutilated. Afusat is also in danger as she escaped a forced marriage to a man 40 years her senior to whom her family is indebted."

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WooWooOwl · 22/04/2014 22:15

To all those asking 'what the fuck is wrong with you' for being reluctant to sign a petition without knowing any details about a case - it puzzles me why anyone would sign anything without having more details.

The fact that so far the people involved here have been refused asylum says something. I appreciate that their case may have not been handled well, but without knowing either way, I don't want to sign. If people want to post more details on this thread, then I'll read them.

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Ruushii · 22/04/2014 22:17

I'd rather whack my name with less detail on the off chance it could help two children not be mutilated than not sign just because the details aren't there. I can't think of details off the top of my head that would stop me wanting to help people in this situation.

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Joules68 · 22/04/2014 22:20

Ha ha Alis where have I assumed anything? I asked a question lovey! Are you trying to cause an argument cos I ain't biting

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nickelbabe · 22/04/2014 22:22

I've read the i

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nickelbabe · 22/04/2014 22:23

I've read the information.

the petition just asks for the case to be looked at again, that's all

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DamnBamboo · 22/04/2014 22:24

There is nothing wrong with people not signing this petition, if they don't feel they have enough information.

Again, I would like to know why people think that for some reason the immigration officers have it all wrong and that really this family should be staying.

If there case has been assessed and a real risk of persecution and/or violence is not deemed to be present, why on earth would they, or should they, be granted asylum?

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ProcessYellowC · 22/04/2014 22:27

Ruushii puts it perfectly for me. Often I don't sign petitions that are shoved in my face with no facts, but there is no downside to asking the home office to review the case. The petition isn't saying "let them stay" but just please reconsider the evidence before deportation.

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FreudiansSlipper · 22/04/2014 22:27

simply because FGM is not considered that much of an important issue because it happens to girls

we only need to look at what has happened here to see that. authorities are aware hundred's of young girls return to their parents home country every year and have this barbaric act performed on them

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bellediva · 22/04/2014 22:28

Signed

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DamnBamboo · 22/04/2014 22:30

Of course there is a downside to it.
There are not infinite resources for this type of thing and another genuine asylum's seekers case may not be assessed in due course, which may have other knock-on effects, if this one is assessed again.

I think it's ridiculous the way everybody assumes that this is unjust and that the officials 'must be wrong'

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zippey · 22/04/2014 22:31

Signed

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DamnBamboo · 22/04/2014 22:31

hang on freudian are you saying that the fact that they weren't granted asylum is because they are girls?

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SuburbanRhonda · 22/04/2014 22:34

bamboo, you are lucky to have so much faith in the Border Agency when they examine these cases that you believe they are incapable of making a mistake.

However, as this petition is to request that the Home Office reviews new evidence to support their right to stay rather than to demand that the decision to deport them be overturned, based on inadequate supporting information, do you still believe the case should not even be reviewed?

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Nestabee · 22/04/2014 22:37

Is there a yearly quota for asylum seekers?

Just wondering if this affects whether people may lose their cases for asylum.

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FreudiansSlipper · 22/04/2014 22:38

no I am saying that FGM is not taken seriously enough

why because it is performed on girls/women. are you not aware of the gender inequality

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DamnBamboo · 22/04/2014 22:39

I'm never said I did have faith in the border agency and I also didn't say that they don't make mistakes.
I'm just wondering why everybody clearly has no faith in them at all.

I find it bizarre that people that are saying that they are signing because they might be able to help two little girls yet they don't think for one second that the people investigating this wouldn't also want to help two little girls and would be in a very strong position to do so had it been a possibility.

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Alisvolatpropiis · 22/04/2014 22:39

No joules, I was asking as question. You need not be so touchy.

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Nennypops · 22/04/2014 22:40

I also agree with the sentiment that we can't save the world. FGM is a horrible thing, but is so widespread that we can't possibly be responsible for providing for everyone in the world who is at risk from it.

Just thinking how that would have played out in the 1930s. "Concentration camps are horrible things, but anti-Semitism is so widespread that we can't possibly be responsible for providing for everyone in the world who is at risk from it." ... And the 6 million who died become 7 million.

Sometimes Godwin's Law works.

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DamnBamboo · 22/04/2014 22:42

P.s for the record I signed this (did so before this thread came about)... I just find the attitudes towards those who chose not to sign, for the aforementioned reasons, very bizarre.

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Nennypops · 22/04/2014 22:45

it puzzles me why anyone would sign anything without having more details.

This petition simply asks the Home Office to review the case. Do you seriously think that you do not have enough facts to justify supporting even that much? The point is that the Home Office will be asked to look again at the facts; if you want more, there is quite a bit of information out there, both about FGM in Nigeria and about this case in particular.

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FreudiansSlipper · 22/04/2014 22:47

because I guess many thankfully can not get their head around not wanting to try and help two young girls from being mutilated

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SinisterBuggyMonth · 22/04/2014 22:52

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thegreylady · 22/04/2014 22:52

Signed, this matters.

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bochead · 22/04/2014 23:12

This matters. Women matter.

If we cannot offer asylum to two babies in order to prevent them being mutilated in such a grotesque way then WTF are we doing even attempting to call ourselves a civilised country for? We allow foreign criminals to stay here because of their human rights but refuse to protect an innocent 4 year old and a newborn?

FFS - talk about needing to sort out our priorities!!!!!!!!!!! What exactly do we as a coherent society stand for? Would we be happy for this to be practiced upon our own children? It's very hard to retain any sense of pride in a nation that knowingly and willing sends two innocents to suffer this sort of fate.

If we accept and tolerate this deportation then we knowingly collude in the victims torture. I am not happy to live with that upon my conscience, and am left feeling terribly ashamed of the country I am raising my child in. Have we really become so selfish that we've sunk this low as a collective?

We have to send out a clear message that we, as a society find this practice grotesque, horrific, abhorrent and utterly unacceptable. We can start by protecting the babies on our shores and throwing the legal system's book at any adult who attempts to abuse a child in such a manner here in the UK.

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HeartShapedBox · 22/04/2014 23:15

signed and shared on fb.

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