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Plait: why do we pronounce it 'platt' and not 'plate'?

17 replies

caughtintheact · 21/01/2010 09:50

Anyone know?

Can't think of any others like it.
Bait
Gait
Wait...

My American DH is confused and wants to know!

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QueenOfFlamingEverything · 21/01/2010 09:54

Isn't it a french word originally?

caughtintheact · 21/01/2010 10:27

yes I think so, but the french pronounciation would be 'play' or 'plate' wouldn't it? like lait?

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MrsBadger · 21/01/2010 10:38

really the relevant question would be 'why do we spell it plait not platt?'

In English pronunciation changes much less than spelling - think of Chaucer.

AgentProvocateur · 21/01/2010 10:50

Just to confuse things further, I pronounce it "pleet".

MrsBadger · 21/01/2010 11:11

are you mixing up a French plait ('platt') and a French pleat ('pleet')?

AgentProvocateur · 21/01/2010 11:17

No, not mixing up. I've never heard the word pronounced as "platt". I pronounce all hair plait styles as "pleets".

VintageGardenia · 21/01/2010 11:18

Plaid similar.

MrsBadger · 21/01/2010 11:18

how peculair - where do you live? is it regional, do you think?

nickelbabe · 21/01/2010 11:19

it's one of those movement of the vowel sounds words: there are loads in the english language.

at one point in time, it would have been that the "ai" sound was pronounced "a" and so it stuck. when the vowel sound was moved to "ay" the pelling remained.

very similar idea to bough, bought, bow, bow, etc

VintageGardenia · 21/01/2010 11:19

I would distinguish between plait and pleat too. Hair in plaits pron pleats sound as if a painful head ironing job has gone on!

nickelbabe · 21/01/2010 11:20

sorry, spelling remained with the old pronounciation.

haggisaggis · 21/01/2010 11:22

Think "pleet" is a SCottish thing.

mawbroon · 21/01/2010 11:22

Agent - I pronounce it pleet as well.

throckenholt · 21/01/2010 11:23

it is not just hair - straw plaiting for example was a traditional method used for centuries - for hats and baskets etc.

I guess it comes from the same stem as a pleat (eg a fold in cloth).

Old english spelling apparently pleit.

AgentProvocateur · 21/01/2010 13:06

I'm from Glasgow, so it probably is a regional thing. Glad to see mawbroon agreeing - I was beginning to doubt myself!

sasamaxx · 22/01/2010 18:04

I pronounce both 'plait' and 'pleat' as 'pleet' as well but would never choose to spell it as 'plait'.

I've never heard any Scot say 'platt'.

Also, I see a 'pigtail' as a plait/pleat - and not the same as a 'ponytail'.

activate · 22/01/2010 18:07

Did you konw that if you follow some examples in the english language you can spell Fish like this -> ghoti

gh as in enough
o as in women
ti as in nation

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