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Pedants' corner

It's Hallowe'en isn't it?

12 replies

squeaver · 09/10/2009 18:42

Not Halloween.

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Tortington · 09/10/2009 18:46

oh the beauty of how the wonderful English language can evolve.

this is high pedantry

squeaver · 09/10/2009 18:47

I know, I know...

Inwardly I'm telling myself "ffs".

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BloodshotEyeballs · 09/10/2009 18:48

Yes, the apostrophe is the missing v isn't it?

Kids today

Trikken · 09/10/2009 18:58

is it the same as All Hallow's Eve or is that different?

hatwoman · 16/10/2009 10:45

where does the n come from? if the word is short for evening shouldn't there be another apostrophe for the missing ing?

PuppyMonkey · 16/10/2009 10:49

I write for a regional newspaper and have just written a feature about some Hallowe'en events happening locally. Has to be Hallowe'en at my paper. I am so fecked off with writing Hallowe'en, you wouldn't believe.

Halloween.

Hah!

DailyMailNameChanger · 16/10/2009 10:50

It is both apparently see here

Pyrocanthus · 16/10/2009 23:48

The OED still gives Halowe'en as its preferred spelling, but DMNC's link suggests it'll be changed in due course. There's C18th evidence for Halloween.

'Shortened from All-Hallow-Even'.

MissGreatBritain · 18/10/2009 22:32

I hate to see Halloween too, but language does have to evolve. Otherwise we'd still be celebrating All-Hallow-Even. My gripe is when our ENGLISH language begins to evolve rather quickly in the direction of US ENGLISH, particularly with their dodgy Webster spellings of nite, color etc. Vive la difference I say! [pretentious emoticon]

Pyrocanthus · 18/10/2009 23:02

I don't think you'd catch an educated American using 'nite' and 'color' isn't dodgy, but a legitimate American variation which was decreed by Noah Webster, but wouldn't have shocked a C15th Briton.

I don't want to adopt US spellings either, but I don't buy the idea that Americans have taken 'our' language and spoiled it.

Hallowe'en is elegant, but is just an apostrophe too far, now we don't use 'even' for 'evening'.

MissGreatBritain · 19/10/2009 14:38

No, I think the Americans have taken English, and changed it for their own ends, which is fine. What I object to is us taking it back in the Americanised form, when we already have a perfectly good form of the word ourselves. I heard someone on the radio the other day mention washing his hands under the "fawcet". What's wrong with "tap" all of a sudden? And he was British btw.

Pyrocanthus · 19/10/2009 18:04

OK, I give in, that's a bit naff.

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