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The pronunciation of "Mall"

19 replies

Hassled · 23/03/2009 12:47

as in Shopping Mall.

Is it a class thing or a regional thing? Or an American thing? I say "Marl". DH says "Mal" (to rhyme with "pal"), teenage DD says "Moll". What are your thoughts?

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MitchyInge · 23/03/2009 12:48

I say Maul, is that wrong?

notnowbernard · 23/03/2009 12:48

Well, I say mall that rhymes with fall

Ceolas · 23/03/2009 12:49

I say mall like ball

princessmel · 23/03/2009 12:49

mall like ball

RumMum · 23/03/2009 12:50

I say Mall that rhymes with pal

Hassled · 23/03/2009 12:51

Yes, sorry, meant to put Mall as in Ball as an option. That would seem to be the most common pronunciation, then - DD is always telling me I say it weirdly.

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Tigerschick · 23/03/2009 12:51

I say it to rhyme with 'fall'.

The Mall in London, though, rhymes with 'pal'.

MitchyInge · 23/03/2009 12:53

posh people probably say 'mell'

Tillyscoutsmum · 23/03/2009 12:57

Y'see I would think "mell/mal" is British and mall rhyming with ball is more US pronunciation ...?

SoupDragon · 23/03/2009 13:00

Maul

KingCanuteIAm · 23/03/2009 13:04

No a Mall (Pal) is a Mall, it is a particular word and pronunciation for that specific thing (an English word for an English thing).

A Mall (ball) is an american pronunciation because it is an American thing (and is totally different to a Mal (Pal)) IYSWIM....

probably not!

talbot · 23/03/2009 13:06

Mall as in Pal is surely British? I know Australians say Mall as in Ball like the Americans.

LouIsAHappyLittleVegemite · 23/03/2009 13:09

We say mall/ball in Australia but when I heard about Pal Mall (pal mal) I wasn't sure whether it was the name of the place or the English said Mall like that all the time.

Tillyscoutsmum · 23/03/2009 13:10

The Mall Corporation in London (Developers/Landlords of lots of shopping centres) pronounce it Mall (Pal)

nannyogg · 23/03/2009 13:13

I would think that if you mean Mall as in street or close, it rhymes with pal.

If you mean it as in shopping centre It seems American, pronounced maul - as in 'OMG Tiffany, I'm totally heading for the mall to meet Brad' sorta thing.

LynetteScavo · 23/03/2009 13:23

I say Mall as in Ball

Pall Mall is Pal Mal.

WowOoo · 23/03/2009 13:26

I say mall like Paul/ball.
Have to admit I rarely say it though.

Fimbo · 23/03/2009 13:27

I am Scottish, when living there I would have said Moll.

But I noticed when I moved to England everyone said Mal to rhyme with pal.

And have converted!

AllFallDown · 23/03/2009 18:56

Pall Mall is not necessarily Pal Mal. I have heard historians call it Pell Mell, and just found this on the interwebs:

There is a possible association between pell-mell and Pall Mall, which is best-known now as the name of a street in central London which runs between St James's Street and Haymarket - previously a small alleyway. That name was coined from the name of the game pall mall (a game played with a ring and mallet), which was played in the alley. On the face of it pell-mell and Pall Mall are derived separately and are unrelated. There are early records though, from Samuel Pepys and others, of both the game and the alley being called pell mell. Whether the game was disorderly and confused and the name was coined from that is speculative. It may be that the similarity between the two is merely coincidence, backed up by indifferent spelling.

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