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r'search or reesearch?

19 replies

DisasterArea · 14/03/2009 12:30

have always thought it r'search or rusearch but am noticing alot of reesearch. have i got it wrong?

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Habbibu · 14/03/2009 14:33

I think I use both depending on context - I'm doing some research - stress on second syllable; but "research shows that" stress on first. Never really thought about it. Don't suppose it matters.

theyoungvisiter · 14/03/2009 14:36

I always put the stress on the second syllable. To me stress on teh first syllable sounds slightly more American but that may be just my perception of it.

As an aside, don't you think we need MN to enable the phonetic alphabet?

cornsilk · 14/03/2009 14:36

ree-search. The first syllable is stressed as it's a long vowel sound/open syllable.

Habbibu · 14/03/2009 14:38

When I use it as a verb, I stress the second syllable. Hmm.

Habbibu · 14/03/2009 14:39

Campaign for the MN IPA? I'd draw the line at diacritics, though...

RamblingRosa · 16/03/2009 13:59

Ooh, I was always told that one was American but I can't remember which. I think think it was ree-search.

ByThePowerOfGreyskull · 16/03/2009 14:00

I am not sure why but I say R'search scientist but Market Reesearch

Iklboo · 16/03/2009 14:01

Another odd-bod mix

'I'll have to r'search that for you'
'I'm doing some reesearch for x'

Eether way I end up saying eyther

atowncalledalice · 16/03/2009 14:13

I think ree-search is the English pronunciation, r'search the American.

I say REEEEEEsearch

MrsMattie · 16/03/2009 14:15

Ah, this is a good one.

When did 99% of people I know start saying 'reeeee-search'?

It was always, always r'search in the UK. Always.

It's a bloody American thing, I tell you.

It's like the difference between our 'proj-ect' and their 'pro-ject', or our 'leisure' and their 'leee-jure'.

NO.

TrillianAstra · 16/03/2009 14:16

Depends if it's a noun or a verb.

Only kidding.

I would say I was a REEsearch Scientist, but I am r'SEARCHing X, Y, and Z.

You can have the phonetic alphabet only if it can be clickable so those of us who can't read the phonetic alphabet can have the word come out of our speakers instead.

GetOrfMoiLand · 16/03/2009 14:18

MrsMattie's right.

It's r'search.

doggiesayswoof · 16/03/2009 14:19

I've just realised I have no consistent position on this one

I think I tend to say ree-search when it's a noun and r'search = verb

My dh was a r'search scientist though...

theyoungvisiter · 16/03/2009 15:10

Actually now I have read Greyskull's post I realise that I do say market reesearch (having posted earlier that I only ever say r'search).

I think that is because market reesearch is an American phenomemon and I've therefore absorbed the American pronunciation.

MoshiMoshi · 16/03/2009 20:26

Agreed those Americans are to blame for this one (creeping use of "reesearch"). They seem to like to emphasise the first syllable of words for some reason, HIGH-chair, BAYby etc.) Grrrr.

theyoungvisiter · 16/03/2009 22:12

[whisper] sorry, is that a joke? If so I don't get it! Surely we all pronounce it BAYby. What would you prefer, bayBEE?

campion · 17/03/2009 01:19

Equal stress on baby and high chair ( should be). CI-garette is another annoying one and BAG-hdad (Nicky Campbell keeps doing it , along with New-CASTLE, which may be local pronunciation but isn't national)and MAG-azine ( all American).

Ree-search is in the same category as past-ORAL, beloved of teachers but wrong.

theyoungvisiter · 17/03/2009 10:58

Not according to the OED. It has baby down as first syllable stressed.

Actually though stress is more complicated than simply stressed and unstressed as there is a third level in some phrases. You can hear this by contrasting:

A highchair (as in the piece of baby equipment)
A is unstressed, high is stressed, chair is half stressed.

Contrast this with:

A high chair (as in, a chair too high for me)
A is unstressed, high is stressed, chair is stressed.

Can you hear the difference in the two phrases?

Habbibu · 17/03/2009 11:44

Americans also often stress the last syllable - consider ballet, fillet (as in fillet steak), etc - which is actually closer to the French original. whether that actually matters is another thing entirely.

And I don't think most British English sspeakers do put equal stress on both syllables of baby - would be quite unusual to have a word with no main stress, i think.

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