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is there a word for initials which have become words?

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mimsum · 27/10/2008 20:47

ds wants to know if words like radar which were originally made up of initials - although I can't for the life of me remember what they are now - are just bog-standard nouns or if there's a special way of describing them (other than words which started out as initials )

I'm quite proud he's displaying such pronounced signs of pedantry at 11

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MaryBS · 27/10/2008 20:48

Acronyms.

Racers · 27/10/2008 20:49

Aren't they acronyms? [hopeful emoticon]

nickytwoooohtimes · 27/10/2008 20:50

"What do you feed tham on?"

slayerette · 27/10/2008 20:52

Yes, they are acronyms.

spongebrainbigpants · 27/10/2008 21:07

Radar = Radio Detection and Ranging

twoluvlykids · 27/10/2008 21:10

does nylon count - New York and London

camra - the real ale thingy

not sure if they're real acronyms

MaryBS · 28/10/2008 08:41

Based on this siteHistory of Nylon

nylon isn't an acronym

mimsum · 28/10/2008 09:30

my initial thought was acronym, but it doesn't seem quite right - these have evolved into words in their own right - ds is sure there's a separate word for them, but neither of us can think what it is - I told him mumsnet pedants would be sure to know

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MaryBS · 28/10/2008 19:20

Everything I have read says these are still acronyms.

However he MAY be thinking of initialisms, for example IBM and NFL, which are generally NOT pronounced as words.

Cauldronfrau · 28/10/2008 19:24

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RustyDaviesBear · 28/10/2008 19:28

From Wikipedia
"Initialism originally described abbreviations formed from initials, without reference to pronunciation. The word acronym was coined in 1943 by Bell Laboratories for abbreviations pronounced as words, such as NATO, AIDS and Laser. Of the names, acronym is the most frequently used and known; it is widely used to describe any abbreviation formed from initial letters. Others differentiate between the two terms, restricting acronym to pronounceable words formed from components (letters, usually initial, or syllables) of the constituent words, and using initialism or alphabetism for abbreviations pronounced as the names of the individual letters. In the latter usage, examples of proper acronyms would be NATO scuba (self-contained underwater breathing apparatus), and radar (radio detection and ranging), while examples of initialisms would include FBI and HTML"

mimsum · 28/10/2008 21:11

a-ha! now why didn't I think to look at wikipedia

and yes, he must be getting acronyms confused with initialisms (what a horrible word that is) which is why he's been so adamant that a separate word exists

thanks

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