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oh this ones been bugging me

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RuffleTheAnimal · 30/07/2008 21:26

please tell me if this is correct coz it seems wrong and i keep reading it on stickers everywhere lately
'smoking is not allowed anywhere in these premises'
shouldnt it be on??

prepared to be wrong!

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fryalot · 30/07/2008 21:28

now I think... and I'm prepared to be corrected... but I think that smoking as not allowed inside but it is outside. Outside is still technically on the premises so that is why the sign reads "IN"

Or maybe they've just got it wrong.

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RuffleTheAnimal · 30/07/2008 21:30

hmmm, sounds plausible...

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VintageGardenia · 30/07/2008 21:31

Hmm not 100 per cent sure about this, and slightly falling asleep, so may be fuzzy, but as far as I know "the premises" are the land rather than the building/s on the land - if I am right about this then the preposition would be "on" rather than "in".

VintageGardenia · 30/07/2008 21:32

"On the premises" would naturally include "in any building on the premises".

PeaMcLean · 30/07/2008 21:33

I thought premises was literally the footprint of a property. The house is built on premises belonging to xxx. That would include the garden. So shouldn't it be "smoking is not allowed anywhere in this building"

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RuffleTheAnimal · 30/07/2008 21:38

yeah, thats what i reckon. it should say either anywehere IN this building or anywhere ON these premises

bugs me

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VintageGardenia · 30/07/2008 21:39

Have a fag.

WilfSell · 30/07/2008 21:40

Just to point out, though, that you're now banned from PD for using "ones" instead of "one's" in your title...

fryalot · 30/07/2008 21:41

when you've got your fag good and lit, stub it out on the i of the word "in"

You can then claim that you were just correcting their appalling grammar and not, in fact, breaking the law by smoking ON the premises

VintageGardenia · 30/07/2008 21:41

And you're banned for using PD instead of PC...

fryalot · 30/07/2008 21:42

wilf - I was too polite to mention that on another note... are you going to the manchester christmas party????? please say yes, please say yes!!!

ComeOVeneer · 30/07/2008 21:42

I spotted that too will

pgwithnumber3 · 30/07/2008 21:42

WilfSell, that was my first thought when I read the thread title! Sad bitch that I am.

fryalot · 30/07/2008 21:43
pippibluestocking · 30/07/2008 21:43

on on on

WilfSell · 30/07/2008 21:48

Damn you VD, I mean VG

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RuffleTheAnimal · 30/07/2008 21:49

arf! might've known...

just for the record, i would never pretend to be a pedant/gramatically knowledgable person (i was educated in hackney in the 80's man, cut me some slack!

i was simply asking for you wise sage's advice...

[no doubt i got that lot wrong an'all]

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WilfSell · 30/07/2008 21:52

Anyway, I always think of it as Pedants' Den...

I'm seriously thinking about it Squonk but being coy still. Big match that weekend? Oh god I've love to go to that too, but being a distant part-timer these days...

fryalot · 30/07/2008 21:54

I have my weekend sorted! Off to the xmas do on the saturday night, staying over at my auntie's then we're going to watch the match together and I'll drive home early evening on the Sunday

please come. Twould be fabby fab fab to meet you, and that pan's going so I'll need some bods in the blue corner when I start a food fight with him

(sorry for hijacking your thread, ruffle but this is important beer and football stuff )

VintageGardenia · 30/07/2008 21:55

Heh heh.

WilfSell · 30/07/2008 21:57

hahahahaha, I'm falling apart tonight. You can all officially revoke my membership of Peant's' Co'ven cos I can't write or spell or anything...

I'd

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RuffleTheAnimal · 30/07/2008 21:57

i quite understand. beer and footie v important. well, one of em anyway.

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RuffleTheAnimal · 30/07/2008 21:58

no worries wilf, you can come and share my dance cap over here in thickos corner

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undervalued · 30/07/2008 22:17

premises, a. a tract of land including its buildings.
b. a building together with its grounds or other appurtenances.(excellent word!!)
Ahem.
It should be on the premises or in the building.

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RuffleTheAnimal · 30/07/2008 22:20

thank you undervalued for agreeing with me (and everyone else i think) you can run back now

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