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Why are people saying ‘in-FER-ence’ now?

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BrickBiscuit · 09/10/2026 09:53

All my life it’s been ‘in-FER’ and ‘IN-fer-ence’. But ‘in-FER-ence’ seems to be taking over. I hear it especially in amateur podcasts. What’s going on?

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EscCtrl · 09/10/2026 14:03

RaraRachael · 09/10/2026 13:57

Maybe it's awful to you but absolutely the norm where I am.
I presume you'd say "Please may I have?" . That would sound very odd here and if I said it I'd probably get laughed at or be the subject of eye rolling.

In a shop I was laughed at for asking "may I have". Pedantically "can I have" means is it possible for me to have. "May I have" is asking someone if they will allow me to have.

BatchCookBabe · 09/10/2026 14:03

RaraRachael · 09/10/2026 13:57

Maybe it's awful to you but absolutely the norm where I am.
I presume you'd say "Please may I have?" . That would sound very odd here and if I said it I'd probably get laughed at or be the subject of eye rolling.

I say 'can I get' too. I never used to til this past 10 years. I picked it up off my DC. Blush

ElleneAsanto · 09/10/2026 14:16

Silverbirchleaf · 09/10/2026 12:52

So for ‘’infer’, it’s ‘ in Fer’ but for ‘inference’ it’s now ‘inFERence’ rather than ‘INferednce’?

Not noticed, but neither word I use a lot.

It’s the same pattern as reFER, reFERral, REFerence, and deFER, deFERral, DEFerence.

Stuckonphone · 09/10/2026 14:34

EscCtrl · 09/10/2026 14:03

In a shop I was laughed at for asking "may I have". Pedantically "can I have" means is it possible for me to have. "May I have" is asking someone if they will allow me to have.

May, in the sense of ‘May I have?’ just isn’t commonly used in some areas. ‘May I have’ sounds just as out of place to some people as ‘Can I have’ or ‘Can I get’ does to others.

It’s really not nice that people laugh when others use an expression they’re not used to though.

BikkieTime · 09/10/2026 14:36

Ooh! I have also noticed this but thought it was a specific case.

Seymour5 · 09/10/2026 14:36

You’ll get me going on mischievous now! When did it become mischievious? Not an Americanism though, just mispronunciation.

EscCtrl · 09/10/2026 15:22

Stuckonphone · 09/10/2026 14:34

May, in the sense of ‘May I have?’ just isn’t commonly used in some areas. ‘May I have’ sounds just as out of place to some people as ‘Can I have’ or ‘Can I get’ does to others.

It’s really not nice that people laugh when others use an expression they’re not used to though.

No worries, I found it amusing. If I remember correctly, Tom Wolfe mocks the conditional language the English use to order food in a New York restaurant, as a kind of inverted snobbery that signals their (self perception of) cultural superiority.

BrickBiscuit · 10/10/2026 12:13

Stuckonphone · 09/10/2026 12:49

I haven’t noticed a change in the pronunciation of inference, OP.
Where have you heard it said differently?

@HangryBrickShark
‘Can I get?’ isn’t an Americanism where I am (Ireland). Nor is jail/gaol.

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I have heard ‘in-FER-ence’ on a well-published minor English author’s recent amateur YouTube channel, where they happen to use the word frequently because of context. They clearly stress the ‘FER’ every time. I have heard the same on other YouTube podcast-type videos. I don’t think I would notice it whenever pronounced correctly, as it would be so mundane. It is more surprising as that author is obviously well-read and well-spoken, and uses the language professionally.

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Stuckonphone · 10/10/2026 12:20

Okay, thanks @BrickBiscuit.
I haven’t come across it myself, but I’ll watch out for it now.

PleasantPedant · 10/10/2026 18:41

@BatchCookBabe , it's like saying infer then adding the -ence, whereas the stress should be on the in.
cf. refer and reference.

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