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Aleveldilemma · 30/09/2026 15:06

This is a new one to me. Saw it on a thread earlier.

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EscCtrl · 02/10/2026 09:36

I knew the usage of "by and large" as in mostly. But for me it was an unexamined idiom, a surface knowledge with no depth of reason. I had to look up the reason why "by and large" could possibly be used in that sense.
"By and large is a nautical term from the late 17th century, which stems from the practice of sailing by (which means close to the line of the wind) or sailing large (which means with the wind on the quarter). These sailing techniques were sufficient to keep the ship heading in approximately the right direction, but they were not very accurate."

Idontjetwashthefucker · 02/10/2026 10:01

Aleveldilemma · 02/10/2026 00:47

Cost of living 😬

🤮

BrezhnevsLuxuriantEyebrows · 02/10/2026 10:07

Seymour5 · 02/10/2026 09:21

Brilliant! He’s usually portrayed in dark red, so it’s almost appropriate. 👹

And to be fair, he was a truly nasty character!

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BrezhnevsLuxuriantEyebrows · 02/10/2026 10:10

Aleveldilemma · 02/10/2026 00:48

Platty jubes makes me laugh as well.

Rest bite though… I mean it KIND of makes sense. “I hope you get some rest bite”. It sounds like a bite of rest. Which is not dissimilar to the meaning.

A long time ago, I used to work for a catering company that had outlets in lots of public facilities and institutions, and they had a brand of hospital cafe which they named 'Rest Bite'.

I never did find out if the name was chosen by a secret MNer of this parish board, hugging themselves with glee, or somebody who genuinely thought that was the actual phrase?!

BrezhnevsLuxuriantEyebrows · 02/10/2026 10:13

KitchenDancefloor · 30/09/2026 15:13

A new one to me was ‘or sank’. Took me a while to realise it meant ‘or something’ in my local dialect. Really creative spelling that makes sense when said in an Estuary accent.

The Estuary accent is interesting. No matter how many times I watch The Apprentice, I still find myself momentarily puzzled as to why Alan is trying to encourage the teams to get as many female pigs as possible!

MagpiePi · 02/10/2026 10:19

notjaneausten · 02/10/2026 08:26

Unclothed policeman? I'm deaf, but I read a lot, however,???

Plain clothed policeman?

I’ve just seen ‘your’s’ instead of ‘yours’, which I suppose is correct usage of an apostrophe to denote ownership, but still wrong!

BrezhnevsLuxuriantEyebrows · 02/10/2026 10:28

This one might seem a weird connection, but it's what 'by enlarge' makes me think of. We go to Norfolk a lot, and the number of tacky gift shops that have signs for sale that make a rude pun using the word 'Norfolk' is very high. It's also popular as a 'hilarious' yet deeply unoriginal pub quiz team name.

Alongside the witty ones that say 'Norfolk and good' (which I read as shorthand for saying 'I'm Norfolk-born and very happy about it), the majority say 'Norfolk in chance' or 'Norfolk 'n' chance', which isn't a rude pun at all; it's just completely nonsensical - the adult equivalent of pre-schoolers finding it eternally amusing to just randomly shout "Poo!!!!" devoid of any context.

The most irritating thing is that 'Norfolk enchants' would make the absolutely perfect clever pun (and also be a true statement imho!), and is surely right there in your face, just waiting to be made... but I have never, ever seen this on a sign, tea-towel or other souvenir anywhere.

Aleveldilemma · 02/10/2026 11:06

@BrezhnevsLuxuriantEyebrows you should create a range. I love that!

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KitchenDancefloor · 02/10/2026 18:25

BrezhnevsLuxuriantEyebrows · 02/10/2026 10:13

The Estuary accent is interesting. No matter how many times I watch The Apprentice, I still find myself momentarily puzzled as to why Alan is trying to encourage the teams to get as many female pigs as possible!

It has taken me all day to figure out what you meant! Obvious once you ‘hear’ it exactly as he says it. 🤦‍♀️

I won’t ruin it for anyone else.

This accent is why I didn’t know a childhood friend’s surname for years until I saw it written down; Paulman/Poolman/Pullman all mangled by Estuary English to sound the same.

RaraRachael · 02/10/2026 18:58

I can't get the female pigs reference - sows presumably? But if so, I can't think what it could be 🤔

There's a Radio quiz called Couch Potatoes which sounds like Catch Tay'as in Estuary English

FiniteSagacity · 02/10/2026 23:09

exexpat · 01/10/2026 22:23

I wonder if automated speech-to-text captions on videos (on tiktok and instagram) are making this sort of thing worse, as they often mis-transcribe similar-sounding words and phrases, and perhaps if the same mistake regularly crops up, people start to think it's correct.

I do worry about shoddy subtitles being the majority of the words some people see.

But social media is bringing us some apt new words as well -

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music that you love, upload original content and share it all with friends, family and the world on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/T4Upf_B9RLQ?si=JbIb-FFfxY0U5ho3

HorribleHisTories15 · 03/10/2026 00:50

@iloveanearlynightand @Idontjetwashthefucker thank you. 😳 I’m shocked! (Shook as they say nowadays)

BrezhnevsLuxuriantEyebrows · 03/10/2026 18:28

RaraRachael · 02/10/2026 18:58

I can't get the female pigs reference - sows presumably? But if so, I can't think what it could be 🤔

There's a Radio quiz called Couch Potatoes which sounds like Catch Tay'as in Estuary English

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The way he says 'sales' sounds exactly the same as most people say 'sows' (as in pigs, not somebody spreading seeds).

They also had a task once involving the teams making and selling bao buns, and he elongated the word in a way that made it sound more like he was saying 'bowel buns' ! <boak>

HelloDenise · 08/10/2026 08:19

Femeia · 01/10/2026 23:35

I‘ve seen “Deja vous” on FB. And sometimes it will translate it but the people still don’t realise

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I've heard Gary Davies saying Déjà Wooooo

Katkins17 · 08/10/2026 08:22

My ‘favourites’
‘the top run of the ladder ‘
’Thats paramount to fraud !!’

or another …

’Shes on tender hooks !’

Kingdomofsleep · 08/10/2026 08:28

My favourite lately is everyone being "dissolutioned", eg "I'm dissolutioned with the Labour party".

I wonder if they think it's cognate with solution, like "I no longer think Labour has the solutions, I'm dissolutioned".

I love it because it works, it's so wrong it's right. It's like an abstract version of the rest bite and the dire rear.

Meteorite87 · 08/10/2026 08:28

HelloDenise · 08/10/2026 08:19

I've heard Gary Davies saying Déjà Wooooo

It can feel spooky, so he could do worse.

Gotback · 08/10/2026 12:16

exexpat · 01/10/2026 22:18

One that took me a while to work out was 'wala' - from the context (I think it was instructions for making something) I realised it was meant to be 'voila!'

Edited to add: that wasn't a one-off, I've seen the same thing a few times since then from different people. I suppose hardly anyone does French at school these days?

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I recently saw a self-congratulatory comment that ended, "...and viola!" It may well have been an autocorrect but it's my new favourite phrase. "My bedroom was very messy so I spent an hour tidying and now....viola!" 🎻

BrezhnevsLuxuriantEyebrows · 08/10/2026 12:25

Gotback · 08/10/2026 12:16

I recently saw a self-congratulatory comment that ended, "...and viola!" It may well have been an autocorrect but it's my new favourite phrase. "My bedroom was very messy so I spent an hour tidying and now....viola!" 🎻

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Don't a lot of people deliberately use that ironically now, though, because of the number of people who have used it unwittingly and assuming that was the correct word?

A bit like when people who used to watch Only Fools & Horses will affectionately use Del-Boyisms, like "Mange tout!" to mean don't worry about it, or "The world is your lobster!"

Of course, it then all blurs when people who aren't using it ironically hear those who are, and thus they go on to use it, believing it to be correct!

Pieceofpurplesky · 08/10/2026 12:31

I once had a pupil write phonetically in her story ... 'Susan cunt beleev it'

CountryGirlInTheCity · 08/10/2026 16:58

Another pearl I saw today:

’This is a seminar moment’

hmm

JustPlainStanfreyPock · 08/10/2026 17:22

Sorry if this has appeared already, but I've seen quite a few posts 'towing the line' recently.

Puts me in mind of a trawler somehow...

FuzzyPuffling · 09/10/2026 09:32

I've just come across "draw dropping" out in the MN wild. I assume they actually wanted to drop their jaw.

PrettyLittleRose · 09/10/2026 09:43

Aleveldilemma · 02/10/2026 00:48

Platty jubes makes me laugh as well.

Rest bite though… I mean it KIND of makes sense. “I hope you get some rest bite”. It sounds like a bite of rest. Which is not dissimilar to the meaning.

I'm not even a Londoner, and I say Platty Jubes. I think it sounds cute. 😆

By enlarge is appalling. 😂

'Or Sank' - for 'or something' and 'The Devil In Garnet' for 'The Devil Incarnate' are brilliant. Grin

PrettyLittleRose · 09/10/2026 09:43

Pieceofpurplesky · 08/10/2026 12:31

I once had a pupil write phonetically in her story ... 'Susan cunt beleev it'

😆