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Why are Radio 4 presenters mispronouncing ‘new’?

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TheMarriageOfAirAndFrock · 18/07/2026 07:09

First thing this morning I heard ‘nuuu’, rather than ‘neeeyouw’ (compressed) which is the word I’ve been familiar with for 6 decades.

And it’s ’s not just R4 - I’m hearing a lazy pronunciation of this word everywhere these days.

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smithsgj · 19/07/2026 16:50

QwestSprout · 18/07/2026 08:18

Off the top of my head without going to look at a load of papers:
All languages simplify over time in many ways - e.g. originally we had one word that meant heart, mind, spirit and courage, but over time we added more words and those other meanings split off leaving the original word to semantically drift until it ended up as 'mood'.
Simplification takes many forms, but one of them is pronunciation, leading us to -

NRP - which stands for Non Regional Pronunciation - has historically been a sort of classless variety of English that eschews dialectal markers, including those of RP. This sort of spread around in the 20th century and was used by broadcasters to replace RP (received pronunciation).

Then a variety called Estuary English (coming from Southeast England funnily enough from the London area) started to become more prevalent and take over. This variety borrows some of its phonemes from Cockney English which is why we get more glottal stops, and yod dropping and some other things I can't think of right now.
Most linguists would agree Estuary English is now NRP, that one has overtaken the other.

Edit - the reason for the spread is technology in that everyone can now watch TV and videos and shorts online, and also we have far greater population movement now so it's much easier for changes to spread than they used to be.

So that's why these pronunciations have spread, and returning to the idea of simplification, it's simply easier to pronounce tune and lute without the /j/ phoneme. People are like water, we will always take the path of least resistance.

Edited

Great post, but lute with a /j/? Sounds seriously affected

Marinaseahorse · 19/07/2026 19:37

MyOliveBear · 18/07/2026 20:38

I can’t stand rum instead of room. Along with previously said buk instead of book.

Yes me too with rum just why I don’t get it. And we are similarly annoyed by buk or Burke as the vowel often seems elongated. I find it particularly annoying when it’s said by authors or in book club discussions on the radio

MixedBouquets · 19/07/2026 19:58

TheMarriageOfAirAndFrock · 19/07/2026 10:40

Well no, that’s my (poorly expressed) point! What I’m finding odd is people with what used to be called RP pronunciation adopting ways of speaking that sound foreign to them.

What’s odd about it? Even the late queen, hardly a slave to fashion or addicted to US tv, modified her way of speaking over the course of her life to sound less strangulated and distinctively UC. Her vowels became far less nasal (‘heppeh ’ for ‘happy’), and her diphthongs changed. She was hardly street, but she definitely moved to something clearer and more accessible.

ZZTopGuitarSolo · 19/07/2026 21:19

Monty36 · 18/07/2026 17:07

They cannot pronounce Leicester.

Much like Brits can’t pronounce Scituate.

JoeyJava · 19/07/2026 22:29

Jesus Christ I hate this so much. I've always assumed they must have spent far too much time watching TV. American TV, in particular.

"Movies; eggplant" etc. Looking the wrong way when they cross the road (tbh I'm quite glad about this one). They probably add "-fish" after every fish e.g. "toonafish", as well.

Another thing, but I'm not sure if it's an American thing, pronouncing the letter "H" as "haitch"...

MixedBouquets · 19/07/2026 23:17

JoeyJava · 19/07/2026 22:29

Jesus Christ I hate this so much. I've always assumed they must have spent far too much time watching TV. American TV, in particular.

"Movies; eggplant" etc. Looking the wrong way when they cross the road (tbh I'm quite glad about this one). They probably add "-fish" after every fish e.g. "toonafish", as well.

Another thing, but I'm not sure if it's an American thing, pronouncing the letter "H" as "haitch"...

Sigh. The letter ‘h’ is referred to as ‘haitch’ in standard Hibernian-English. It’s not an error, an Americanism or a sign of slipping standards.

ErrolTheDragon · 20/07/2026 00:31

RitaIncognita · 19/07/2026 15:53

It is indeed. There is a town near me in another US Southern state that has a Gloucester Street. Any guesses as to how the locals pronounce it?

I’m not sure I dare. Glou sess ter maybe?
In Massachusetts they have a town sensibly named Gloster.

RitaIncognita · 20/07/2026 00:43

ErrolTheDragon · 20/07/2026 00:31

I’m not sure I dare. Glou sess ter maybe?
In Massachusetts they have a town sensibly named Gloster.

You are correct. 😄

scalt · 24/07/2026 22:16

eastegg · 18/07/2026 23:11

Ah Marjorie Dawes 😂. Remember when she wrote CHOCLIT on the whiteboard?

Ah yes, back when we were allowed to
laugh at comedy like that, before woke took over. When she kept mishearing the Indian lady saying “fish and chips”, she wrote “curry” on the board. (Mind you, I didn’t like all the characters in Little Britain.)

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