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Alot, should of

57 replies

Nautiesdese · 04/05/2026 07:28

Abit. Afew. Could go on.

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PleasantPedant · 04/05/2026 17:16

deeahgwitch · 04/05/2026 17:00

I’m in Ireland @PleasantPedant
Primary Teaching was difficult to get into as places were limited. So grades were very good.
I’m not sure what the Secondary teacher's criteria for grades and subjects are.

I'm in mainland UK, and the standards aren't high.

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 04/05/2026 17:26

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whichwayisuptoday · 04/05/2026 17:32

I employed a secretary who typed would of and could of throughout all the letters she produced on her first day. When I corrected her, she insisted I was wrong as she had a GCSE A* in English and I'd had to resit my GCE O'level!

yousillygoose · 04/05/2026 17:57

Seeing ‘our’ written as ‘are’ is one that’s really grating on me at the moment.

PleasantPedant · 04/05/2026 17:58

whichwayisuptoday · 04/05/2026 17:32

I employed a secretary who typed would of and could of throughout all the letters she produced on her first day. When I corrected her, she insisted I was wrong as she had a GCSE A* in English and I'd had to resit my GCE O'level!

How was she on day 2?

JadeSeahorse · 04/05/2026 18:06

Growlybear83 · 04/05/2026 17:14

I did. My daughter had the same appalling teacher for two years and this was the final straw. This happened a couple of weeks before the end of the summer term, and I moved her to another school for the start of Year 3.

Well done Growlybear83!

Good to see you living up to your name. 😁

Theyreeatingthedogs · 04/05/2026 18:27

Lovecats173694 · 04/05/2026 15:21

I think it’s okay in speech as I see it as people saying the contracted form would’ve should've etc so that’s correct.

I think that’s how the written issue has come about to be honest as people seem to hear would’ve and write it would of. Probably caused by people not reading anymore and not seeing the form of words written down.

i absolutely hate the written would of!

This.

BrickBiscuit · 04/05/2026 19:02

Lovecats173694 · 04/05/2026 15:21

I think it’s okay in speech as I see it as people saying the contracted form would’ve should've etc so that’s correct.

I think that’s how the written issue has come about to be honest as people seem to hear would’ve and write it would of. Probably caused by people not reading anymore and not seeing the form of words written down.

i absolutely hate the written would of!

I have heard people say 'of' incorrectly in speech, on occasions when someone has enunciated each word for emphasis, and left no doubt which words they were using. I have even heard a TV broadcaster do this on air.

landlordhell · 04/05/2026 19:05

Seymour5 · 04/05/2026 09:07

Or 'myself'.

Hate that! Yes always put the other person first but it’s John and me if it’s ’Are you coming with John amd me?’ But it’s John and I if it’s ’John and I would like to thank you all.’ Am I right?

landlordhell · 04/05/2026 19:07

PleasantPedant · 04/05/2026 17:16

I'm in mainland UK, and the standards aren't high.

Really low standards. I see students on placement at my primary school all the time. It is shocking, sadly.

PleasantPedant · 04/05/2026 20:05

Some are excellent and some poor.
Same with TAs.

PleasantPedant · 04/05/2026 20:08

The argument I see on here is that poor English could be because of it not being their first language.
IMO, the errors made depend on how you learnt English. I know plenty of non-native English speakers with excellent English because they were taught properly.

ProperGandering · 04/05/2026 20:12

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RitaIncognita · 04/05/2026 20:24

BrickBiscuit · 04/05/2026 19:02

I have heard people say 'of' incorrectly in speech, on occasions when someone has enunciated each word for emphasis, and left no doubt which words they were using. I have even heard a TV broadcaster do this on air.

Yes but the "of" mistake originated from people mis-hearing the contraction or the elision of "would" and "have," which is a common feature of spoken English in many accents.

It is certainly a pedantry too far for people to object to, or worse, correct people for speaking the contraction or the elision.

BrickBiscuit · 04/05/2026 20:38

RitaIncognita · 04/05/2026 20:24

Yes but the "of" mistake originated from people mis-hearing the contraction or the elision of "would" and "have," which is a common feature of spoken English in many accents.

It is certainly a pedantry too far for people to object to, or worse, correct people for speaking the contraction or the elision.

But if people speak incorrectly, they ARE wrong, and why not object or correct them if reasonable in the circumstances.

PleasantPedant · 04/05/2026 20:43

RitaIncognita · 04/05/2026 20:24

Yes but the "of" mistake originated from people mis-hearing the contraction or the elision of "would" and "have," which is a common feature of spoken English in many accents.

It is certainly a pedantry too far for people to object to, or worse, correct people for speaking the contraction or the elision.

It isn't. They aren't saying 'would've' or 'woulduv'/'wouldov', they are saying 'would of'. I can hear the space just as in 'end of'.

RitaIncognita · 04/05/2026 21:47

PleasantPedant · 04/05/2026 20:43

It isn't. They aren't saying 'would've' or 'woulduv'/'wouldov', they are saying 'would of'. I can hear the space just as in 'end of'.

Some might be, but many are not.

Again, the written mistake is a result of the way many English speakers have pronounced those words in many different accents for a very long time.

It's very tricky to try to correct someone because you might be merely correcting an accent, which is pretty offensive.

PleasantPedant · 04/05/2026 21:58

RitaIncognita · 04/05/2026 21:47

Some might be, but many are not.

Again, the written mistake is a result of the way many English speakers have pronounced those words in many different accents for a very long time.

It's very tricky to try to correct someone because you might be merely correcting an accent, which is pretty offensive.

Edited

Not if they are your children or if it's written.

You listen to people saying it. The words are distinct.

I don't find it tricky correcting people but I'll choose when to do so.
I've seen 'should of' in an email at work from a colleague who really should have known better and didn't correct him, but my opinion of him went down a few notches.

Had it been in something customer-facing, I would have corrected him.

Accent is no excuse. My grammar is not affected by my accent.

You are making excuses. I am glad my parents and some teachers told me to enunciate clearly.

Lovecats173694 · 04/05/2026 22:34

BrickBiscuit · 04/05/2026 19:02

I have heard people say 'of' incorrectly in speech, on occasions when someone has enunciated each word for emphasis, and left no doubt which words they were using. I have even heard a TV broadcaster do this on air.

Ah fair enough. I’ve not come across that yet but suspect it’s only a matter of time given how prevalent it is in written form…

Shodan · 04/05/2026 22:42

Alot. Abit.
Lay in.
Rando'm apo'strophe's.
We was.
Could of. Should of.
'Please come and speak to myself if you have a problem'.
'Reign it in'

And a relative newcomer- discrete instead of discreet.

Getting off the internet does help, I find. I don't do that nearly enough.

RitaIncognita · 04/05/2026 23:41

BrickBiscuit · 04/05/2026 20:38

But if people speak incorrectly, they ARE wrong, and why not object or correct them if reasonable in the circumstances.

But how do you determine what is incorrect when there are so many different accents of spoken English?

I have a regional accent that often does not differentiate between "of" and " 've". And I usually elide "would have." I certainly know the correct form in writing, but I would not appreciate my speech being "corrected."

Tallisker · 05/05/2026 00:20

landlordhell · 04/05/2026 19:05

Hate that! Yes always put the other person first but it’s John and me if it’s ’Are you coming with John amd me?’ But it’s John and I if it’s ’John and I would like to thank you all.’ Am I right?

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This is actually a fairly easy rule. Take out the other person and use either I or me. So “I gave it”, therefore “John and I gave it”; “it was given to me” therefore “ it was given to John and me”.

PleasantPedant · 05/05/2026 00:36

RitaIncognita · 04/05/2026 23:41

But how do you determine what is incorrect when there are so many different accents of spoken English?

I have a regional accent that often does not differentiate between "of" and " 've". And I usually elide "would have." I certainly know the correct form in writing, but I would not appreciate my speech being "corrected."

If you say 'would've' you won't be. If you say 'would of' you might.

Listen to the people who say 'I would of' for 'I would've', they also say 'I of' for 'I've'.
That is not due to their accent.

Macaroni46 · 05/05/2026 00:42

Also hate: there/their/they’re and your/you’re. It’s really not that hard!
Saw onsuite earlier too 🤦‍♀️

PleasantPedant · 05/05/2026 00:45

Macaroni46 · 05/05/2026 00:42

Also hate: there/their/they’re and your/you’re. It’s really not that hard!
Saw onsuite earlier too 🤦‍♀️

There is not here. They're is they are.

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